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Old 06-19-2015, 09:56 AM   #1
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When Bus Towing Goes WRONG.

FHP: 3 injured in crash involving semi, 3 old school buses

This sounds pretty sketchy to me. Sounds like someone bought a few auction buses and tried pulling a dead one with another bus. On 95 of all places.
Obviously someone didn't wanna pay for a proper tow.
Hopefully the innocent bystander survives.
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Old 06-20-2015, 04:11 AM   #2
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can't help but think of this guy...


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Old 06-20-2015, 09:01 AM   #3
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. . . . Hopefully the innocent bystander survives.
"Innocent bystander" on the shoulder of I-95? I think not. It was probably the driver or passenger of one of the buses "parked" in the driving lane.
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Old 06-20-2015, 09:12 AM   #4
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ah, that would make sense I guess. Derp.
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I think what they were doing was fine.
It's just that they were on a major interstate and not on some back woods hiway at 3am where you are more likley to see Sasquatch than another person.

I am guilty of all sorts of illigal and undafe loads.... But I live in Hicksville Canada.
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Old 06-20-2015, 12:58 PM   #6
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I think what they were doing was fine.
It's just that they were on a major interstate and not on some back woods hiway at 3am where you are more likley to see Sasquatch than another person.

I am guilty of all sorts of illigal and undafe loads....
But I live in Hicksville Canada.
2 weekend ago.... promised I wasn't going to tell this story!
but, I needed to move my 4x4 3/4 ton suburban(K2500) about 45 miles...
I tried to move it last year with my 1/2 ton suburban and a buddy's very heavy car hauler with "BULL DOG" hitch, with POOR RESULTS... I made made it 8 miles and aborted the mission, drove it back 8 miles and dropped it off where I started....

this year, I decided to try it again... so, I rent a 10' uhaul 3/4 ton van, and buddy's very heavy car hauler with "BULL DOG" hitch
picked up the uhaul, dropped by buddy's shop and picked up his very heavy car hauler with "BULL DOG" hitch

the reason I point out very heavy car hauler with "BULL DOG" hitch
is because I BROKE A BULLDOG HITCH IN HALF!!! About 20 miles into this trip, I came to a , made a left hand turn... then BAM, SHAKE, & RATTLE!!! In front of the SMALL TOWN Police Department!

checked it out, ran the landing gear down to lift the trailer tongue to bottom of uhaul hitch, wrapped a log chain around the trailer tongue, then raised the landing gear back up... slinging the load from bottom of hitch.. and proceeded to drive back the 20 miles to return the trailer to buddy's shop...... surprisingly, it pulled very well and I hit 45 miles per hour a couple of times, it really sucked when going down a steep hill because the trailer would try to push me. Got it back, and dropped off. Son drove 1/2 ton suburban behind me, at a safe'ish distance... both using iphones with earbuds the entire time.

well, lesson learned. Uhaul does have box trucks with trailer hitches... BUT, their ball is mounted so close to bumper that you cannot place two fingers between the ball & bumper. Bulldog hitches are pointed at the hinge point, and couldn't turn properly on a uhaul.

I borrowed another buddy's lighter car hauler, with a round nosed Fulton hitch and picked up the 3/4 ton suburban, and got it home with no problems....


I learned that a 1/2 ton suburban's air ride suspension WILL NOT lift a 3/4 ton suburban and a very heavy car hauler with "BULL DOG" hitch....

I can laugh now, because no one was harmed in this cluster---- and the 3/4 ton is home now!
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I think what they were doing was fine.
It's just that they were on a major interstate and not on some back woods hiway at 3am where you are more likley to see Sasquatch than another person.

I am guilty of all sorts of illigal and undafe loads.... But I live in Hicksville Canada.
There's a right way and a wrong way sometimes.
Its lucky they didn't kill anyone. Sure- I've towed cars and trucks with chains and even ropes before, but a bus is something that should be taken a bit more seriously.
Doing this on a major interstate is pretty effed up.
They obviously had enough money to afford three buses- they should have had enough money for a proper tow.
Now someone's in the hospital.
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in my defense...... the 3/4 ton was actually further back on the trailer, than when this picture was taken, so the hitch was about 6 inches higher...

just don't ask me what happens when the truck's tire is resting on the front trailer rail pipe.... and you hand is cushioning the rail
and your phone is in the seat of the truck.
I'll never know who that farmer was that drove by and helped free me
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Old 06-20-2015, 01:17 PM   #9
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There's a right way and a wrong way sometimes.
Its lucky they didn't kill anyone. Sure- I've towed cars and trucks with chains and even ropes before, but a bus is something that should be taken a bit more seriously.
Doing this on a major interstate is pretty effed up.
They obviously had enough money to afford three buses- they should have had enough money for a proper tow.
Now someone's in the hospital.
trust me, in my STUPIDITY, in my case.... I never pulled anywhere near a major highway... back road 2 lane blacktop all the way. if anyone got behind me, I pulled over.
Even when I was in a better situation with uhaul & lighter trailer loaded with 3/4 ton.... never hit 50mph
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Old 06-20-2015, 01:42 PM   #10
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I bought a old gmc 4105 bus once when I got there to take it home it had a flat so I went to call a tire truck when I came back my buddy had the air hooked up to it and was filling it with nitrogen. it aired up and stayed, I said ok guess it was just low, so we get back to the shop and then my buddy tells me that he had put a screw in a hole in the tire and aired it up! I was running over 80mph thru a very busy mixmaster in Dallas Texas traffic eating a burrito and talking to my girlfriend on the phone driving with my knees, good thing the good Lord looks out for young fools.
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Old 06-20-2015, 06:12 PM   #11
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trust me, in my STUPIDITY, in my case.... I never pulled anywhere near a major highway... back road 2 lane blacktop all the way. if anyone got behind me, I pulled over.
Even when I was in a better situation with uhaul & lighter trailer loaded with 3/4 ton.... never hit 50mph
Yep_ that's how its done.
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Sounds like a red-neck solution on a busy freeway. Not safe.
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Old 06-21-2015, 10:27 PM   #13
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There's a right way and a wrong way sometimes...
Doing this on a major interstate is pretty effed up.
They obviously had enough money to afford three buses- they should have had enough money for a proper tow.
Now someone's in the hospital.
I wasn't about to take any chances after I bought my bus, so I hired a tow company recommended by the guy who sold me the bus. So it got transported to its storage site by a Kenworth set up to pull vehicles such as this. It even had a hook-up made to fit I-beam axles.

Cost a lot, but it was worth knowing the job would be done right.
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Old 06-22-2015, 07:28 AM   #14
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4 people were injured.
4 hurt in I-95 crash in Palm Coast involving semi, buses | News-JournalOnline.com

Incidents like this aren't helping our cause.
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There have been a few people on here that have done stuff like this. I got into a heated debate with one guy. I hope these guys have to pay big time.
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There have been a few people on here that have done stuff like this. I got into a heated debate with one guy. I hope these guys have to pay big time.
I don't know whether the one accident photo had most of its pillars taken out prior to or after EMS showed up, but that is some serious structural instability.
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I don't know whether the one accident photo had most of its pillars taken out prior to or after EMS showed up, but that is some serious structural instability.

I don't want to start a crap storm but this is one reason I am against a roof raise. Some just don't have the structural engineering experience to do the job properly, like me. I don't always admit my shortcomings but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis...and defer to the school bus engineers.
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Old 06-22-2015, 02:58 PM   #18
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Yeh, wow.. judging by what appears to be spray-bomb or tape around those huge cutouts, I would say that somebody did some stupid modifications to that bus. It doesn't appear to have caused the crash, but it's still a good point of reference for what NOT to do.
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I just found another article with more pictures about the same incident: Tractor Trailer Crashes Into 3 Parked, Mostly Empty School Buses on I-95, Four Injured | FlaglerLive

It turns out the buses were used for watermelons.. They, like most other farm equipment, probably should have been driving on side roads.

More pictures from the article I posted above:






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^ U beat me to it!

They're watermelon grove "trucks". Sometimes they jsut cut the whole roof off and make them into big long pickup type trucks.
They were undoubtedly very beaten buses.
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