Good sam cancels bus conversions

[matthews2001]

The sense of calm I have driving a bus knowing someone has my back-and quite cheaply I must add-to help in anyway like AAA does is invaluable. Between PIA insurance a yearly hassle and without inexpensive trip help I probably would not drive a vehicle around that cost MEGA BUCKS to tow.

I fear end of a era.......

SOLUTION: BUY A CLASS C and convert the outside to look like a bus. HAHA

[NovaTRON]

Originally Posted by Danjo

I called NG/Good Sam. They are actively writing policies for buses/persons that meet their criteria. Nothing has changed.

Please, let’s keep our conspiracy theories limited to microchips in vaccines

BS? Did you not read their message? Here, try it again:

"Our records indicate you have listed a commercial vehicle (bus conversion) on your membership file. Unfortunately, commercial vehicles (including vehicles ORIGINALLY designed for commercial use such as limousines, box trucks, and school buses) are not covered under the Good Sam Roadside Assistance membership plans."

They canceled roadside assistance for school bus conversions, that's not a "conspiracy"

[HamSkoolie]

Originally Posted by dzl_

Cancelling abruptly and refunding the money (prorated) with little warning or explanation while shitty to be on the receiving end of is fairly standard with insurance/cc's/big bureaucracies. I dont think 'complaining to the insurance commisioner', starting angry FB groups, etc will have any effect. And I'm sure there right to cancel at their discretion was explictily stated somewhere in the reams of fine print we all must sign these days.

I would be reading the contract. Most likely they have a "we can do whatever we want when it comes to cancelling you" but you just never know. That provision may well have some restrictions on them like if you misrepresent or they have to give 30 days, etc.
Contract law was a favorite set of courses for me and I can write a boiler plate sounding provision that most will skip right over but that gives me all kinds of leeway. Of course that's what GoodSam (cough hack) probably did but READ AND SEE.

[mrpincher]

I have doubts about a company that will operate contrary to their own stated policy or procedures. It's suspect.


I've had a Roadside Policy since 2018. Always wondered why they would sell me this service then renew it 3 times. They made money off my subscription.


Shortly after they cancelled my policy I received an email stating that my account had been upgraded. What account? Looking through my email I have offers from Good Sams for: Travel Assist, Insurance, Audio Books, Extended Service Plan, Credit Cards. Seems to me that something is changing at GoodSams maybe he's becoming Greedy Sams or Confused Sams. YMMV. Mike

[Danjo]

Originally Posted by NovaTRON

BS? Did you not read their message? Here, try it again:

"Our records indicate you have listed a commercial vehicle (bus conversion) on your membership file. Unfortunately, commercial vehicles (including vehicles ORIGINALLY designed for commercial use such as limousines, box trucks, and school buses) are not covered under the Good Sam Roadside Assistance membership plans."

They canceled roadside assistance for school bus conversions, that's not a "conspiracy"

Just like the OP I didn’t specify the service

I was referring to insurance

[vonslatt]

Originally Posted by vonslatt

Looks like coach-net is familiar with and accepts skoolies, at least as of 2016.

https://blog.coach-net.com/2016/03/0...ith-coach-net/

I queried them this morning via their Contact Us form but have not yet heard back. I suspect they are getting inundated.

Heard back from coach-net. note: I specifically referred to converted school buses in my inquiry and this was the direct response:

Thank you for your email and for your interest in Coach-Net! We absolutely cover conversions and vintage units as long as they are for personal use and not commercial. Please visit our website and fill out the questionnaire for a quote – https://coach-net.com/rv-protect/

If Coach-Net can be of any further assistance or you have questions please feel free to contact us.

Member Services
7 am – 6 pm CST
877.801.0333

Thank you and have a great day!
Safe Travels.

[matthews2001]

As someone already said, we will all move over to coach net roadside assistance

then in a couple years...they will cancell us!!

CANT IMAGINE insurance OR roadside assistance profits from these statistically few number of UNIQUE vehicles. They MUST have higher losses from these type vehicles!~ seems logical

[ewo1]

So this is what it says on their brochure….

https://images.goodsam.com/goodsamro...0MBB%20web.pdf

SERVICE LIMITATIONS
The Good Sam Platinum+ Roadside Assistance program does not provide reimbursement for the cost of parts (including keys), fuel or labor for repairs or installation of replacement parts. Other exclusions include expenses resulting from calls from cellular phones, storage charges, delays or displacement, or clean-up. Unless expressly listed in this benefit brochure, expenses incurred for hotels, meals, campgrounds, car rentals, taxi fare or airfare while a Member’s vehicle is disabled or being repaired are not included.
VEHICLES NOT COVERED BY THE GOOD SAM PLATINUM+ ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO:
• Stolen, vandalized, or impounded vehicles.
• Utility trailers of any type being used for non-recreational purposes, animal
trailers, and vehicles used to transport show animals.
• Tiny Home trailers and Park Model trailers.
• Vehicles located outside the United States, Canada, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin
Islands and Mexico.
• Vehicles in a repair facility, off-road area9, sand beach area, or any unattended,
unlicensed, or abandoned vehicles.
• Commercial/business vehicles and trailers (including but not limited to
limousines), vehicles specifically designed for commercial or business purposes.


So, a school bus was initially designed as a commercial vehicle. Once you change the title to an RV it technically no longer is a commercial vehicle.

So I would have to question them, does an MCI oR Prevost coach qualify for coverage? Those busses were initially designed as commercial vehicles!

I would argue that once you change the title to RV, the “Commercial”
Status no longer applies and since once it is converted, the change in usage clearly is no longer “ commercial”.

Sure would be nice if they modified their service plans to include the Skoolie community.

[dzl_]

Originally Posted by vonslatt

Heard back from coach-net. note: I specifically referred to converted school buses in my inquiry and this was the direct response:

Thank you for your email and for your interest in Coach-Net! We absolutely cover conversions and vintage units as long as they are for personal use and not commercial. Please visit our website and fill out the questionnaire for a quote – https://coach-net.com/rv-protect/

If Coach-Net can be of any further assistance or you have questions please feel free to contact us.

Member Services
7 am – 6 pm CST
877.801.0333

Thank you and have a great day!
Safe Travels.

Looks like Coach-Net even explicitly covers current commercial vehicles


DId you get a quote, I'm curious what the approx cost is?


One thing I noticed when reading through your link, some states are not covered:


"RV Protect is not available in the following states: AK, CA, HI, ID, KY, OR, MD, ME, WA."


I don't know if that means residents of those states cannot sign up, or if it means you will not be covered in those states. Its a strange list of states, AK and HI make some sense I suppose, but then all of the West coast states, and a smattering of others.

[cadillackid]

Originally Posted by Rwnielsen

I believe this train of thought also covers Walmart's recent hesitancy to allow overnight parking (in some locations). Too many unkempt bosses taking advantage

or..



I was walking through my local walmart parking lot the other day and watched a trucker open the passenger door to his cab throw a couple bags of Takeout trash on the ground and drive off...

[o1marc]

Originally Posted by dzl_

Looks like Coach-Net even explicitly covers current commercial vehicles


DId you get a quote, I'm curious what the approx cost is?


One thing I noticed when reading through your link, some states are not covered:


"RV Protect is not available in the following states: AK, CA, HI, ID, KY, OR, MD, ME, WA."


I don't know if that means residents of those states cannot sign up, or if it means you will not be covered in those states. Its a strange list of states, AK and HI make some sense I suppose, but then all of the West coast states, and a smattering of others.

Your insurance policy covers you no matter where you are, they can't deny you coverage for traveling through a different state.

[cadillackid]

Originally Posted by o1marc

Your insurance policy covers you no matter where you are, they can't deny you coverage for traveling through a different state.

this is NOT insurance as mentioned a few times in the thread. its roadside assistance..



im guessing coach-net doesnt have a sub contractor contract in those states..

[o1marc]

Originally Posted by cadillackid

this is NOT insurance as mentioned a few times in the thread. its roadside assistance..



im guessing coach-net doesnt have a sub contractor contract in those states..

Well that certainly makes a difference, nevermind.

[NovaTRON]

Both AAA and Coach-Net do not service WA (or some others), which at this point it seems I'm out of options for getting Road-Side Assistance coverage on my skoolie.



Does anyone know of any other possible options???

[CarJunki]

Originally Posted by NovaTRON

Both AAA and Coach-Net do not service WA (or some others), which at this point it seems I'm out of options for getting Road-Side Assistance coverage on my skoolie.



Does anyone know of any other possible options???

LLc in Montana and register it there... Just have to insure it in your current state.

[Magnum]

I just called and cancelled. Had not heard from them. They verified that Skoolie's are no longer covered by RV Roadside Insurance. Shame, I had a 3 Year Policy. Still in conversion process for another year probably, so thanks for my $200 back. Hopefully there will be alternatives in the future,

[RossRollingHomes]

I sold my two short busses. Didn’t make sense to put the time, effort and money into the projects when insurance coverage is either through the roof, inadequate or non-existent. Sad.

[Gorzie]

just call and complain he wants to know if you need anything. LOL



I have note received any notification about a cancelation yet, I will keep my eye open for it.

thanks for the heads up

UPDATE yes I did get the notice

[Gorzie]

Originally Posted by dzl_

Looks like Coach-Net even explicitly covers current commercial vehicles


DId you get a quote, I'm curious what the approx cost is?


One thing I noticed when reading through your link, some states are not covered:


"RV Protect is not available in the following states: AK, CA, HI, ID, KY, OR, MD, ME, WA."


I don't know if that means residents of those states cannot sign up, or if it means you will not be covered in those states. Its a strange list of states, AK and HI make some sense I suppose, but then all of the West coast states, and a smattering of others.

It is more expensive at $249/ year but they defiantly cover skoolies. Just canceled goodsam and requested a refund then called and complained not that it will do anything and signed up for coach-net. I would hate to ever have to pay for a tow all at once

[o1marc]

Originally Posted by CarJunki

LLc in Montana and register it there... Just have to insure it in your current state.

Many states are starting to crack down on the tax evading Mt. LLC's.