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05-25-2021, 05:37 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 6
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Help! Live in CA, bought/converting skoolie in AZ. Where and how do I register?
Hi Everyone! Calling in my skoolie experts!
I just bought a 2003 7.3L International shortie in AZ and have a 90 day permit for transferrable registration. I'm currently also converting my skoolie in AZ but I live in CA.
What are my best options for getting it registered in CA? I've read that there are CARB exceptions for motorhomes but what is the process like to get it registered as a motorhome in CA?
If that doesn't work, I've heard Vermont is the state to register for motorhome. But what does it mean that it will be registered in VA but I will receive a transferrable registration since it is 15+ years old? Will I still be able to get the title in CA?
Would really appreciate any help I could get here! Thanks so much!!!
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05-25-2021, 07:05 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Hesperia, CA
Posts: 126
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas Saf-T-Liner
Chassis: HDX with lift
Engine: Mercedes MBE 920
Rated Cap: 22
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Originally Posted by chiu
Hi Everyone! Calling in my skoolie experts!
I just bought a 2003 7.3L International shortie in AZ and have a 90 day permit for transferrable registration. I'm currently also converting my skoolie in AZ but I live in CA.
What are my best options for getting it registered in CA? I've read that there are CARB exceptions for motorhomes but what is the process like to get it registered as a motorhome in CA?
If that doesn't work, I've heard Vermont is the state to register for motorhome. But what does it mean that it will be registered in VA but I will receive a transferrable registration since it is 15+ years old? Will I still be able to get the title in CA?
Would really appreciate any help I could get here! Thanks so much!!!
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Hi - CARB rules don't apply to private vehicles, but unless your conversion is unquestionably complete, getting it titled as a MH can be problematic. I just bought a bus in NV in April and tried it. I gave up, and I am titling it in VT. I should have plates by the end of the week. My best advice is don't bother with CA, now. Title and register in VT for a year, THEN, when you have title to a motorhome, on your name, register in CA. You won't have to prove anything to the DMV, and you won't have to pay CA sales tax. VT is 6%, btw, rather than 8.5+
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05-25-2021, 07:08 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,775
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Have you read the VT thread? First page is kept updated.
You likely want to keep it registered in VT until it qualifies as an RV in CA and will pass an inspection.
Keep it on the low down, minimum driving until then.
The VT rego **is** the title, can apply for the CA one when you transfer to CA.
Insurance needs to be in the state where it is "usually garaged".
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05-25-2021, 08:23 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 6
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Originally Posted by DAVEHOLMAN
Hi - CARB rules don't apply to private vehicles, but unless your conversion is unquestionably complete, getting it titled as a MH can be problematic. I just bought a bus in NV in April and tried it. I gave up, and I am titling it in VT. I should have plates by the end of the week. My best advice is don't bother with CA, now. Title and register in VT for a year, THEN, when you have title to a motorhome, on your name, register in CA. You won't have to prove anything to the DMV, and you won't have to pay CA sales tax. VT is 6%, btw, rather than 8.5+
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Thanks Dave! This is helpful and confirms what I thought. Really good to hear it from someone who lives out here in CA and in the same position. Your hard work is being passed on! So assuming your skoolie is over 15 years old too... You are able to just have the registration but no "VT title" and you'll register and transfer title to CA next year correct? Am I understanding this correctly? Thanks again!
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05-25-2021, 08:30 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 6
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Thanks Jon! Yes, I've seen the thread. Super helpful!
Do you possibly have a link to the inspection criteria for CA?
Also, will I need to pass motorhome inspection for CA when I transfer it even though I'll have it registered in VA as a motorhome already?
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05-25-2021, 08:32 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by john61ct
Have you read the VT thread? First page is kept updated.
You likely want to keep it registered in VT until it qualifies as an RV in CA and will pass an inspection.
Keep it on the low down, minimum driving until then.
The VT rego **is** the title, can apply for the CA one when you transfer to CA.
Insurance needs to be in the state where it is "usually garaged".
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Thanks Jon! Yes, I've seen the thread. Super helpful!
Do you possibly have a link to the inspection criteria for CA?
Also, will I need to pass motorhome inspection for CA when I transfer it even though I'll have it registered in VA as a motorhome already?
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05-25-2021, 10:11 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Hesperia, CA
Posts: 126
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas Saf-T-Liner
Chassis: HDX with lift
Engine: Mercedes MBE 920
Rated Cap: 22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chiu
Thanks Dave! This is helpful and confirms what I thought. Really good to hear it from someone who lives out here in CA and in the same position. Your hard work is being passed on! So assuming your skoolie is over 15 years old too... You are able to just have the registration but no "VT title" and you'll register and transfer title to CA next year correct? Am I understanding this correctly? Thanks again!
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Mine is an '07, so only 14 years old. I'll get a title. But I understand there's no real difference in terms of getting a CA title, later.
And, yes, when I register and title it here, I will be just registering a motorhome I already own. No inspection, no tax, no smog...
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05-26-2021, 09:56 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: NM USA KD6WJG
Posts: 1,325
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE 40 FEET
Engine: Cummins 8.3
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Originally Posted by DAVEHOLMAN
Hi - CARB rules don't apply to private vehicles, but unless your conversion is unquestionably complete, getting it titled as a MH can be problematic. I just bought a bus in NV in April and tried it. I gave up, and I am titling it in VT. I should have plates by the end of the week. My best advice is don't bother with CA, now. Title and register in VT for a year, THEN, when you have title to a motorhome, on your name, register in CA. You won't have to prove anything to the DMV, and you won't have to pay CA sales tax. VT is 6%, btw, rather than 8.5+
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Well thats over now.
https://www.rvtravel.com/state-motor...nia-smog-plan/ What a load.
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05-26-2021, 10:47 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Hesperia, CA
Posts: 126
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas Saf-T-Liner
Chassis: HDX with lift
Engine: Mercedes MBE 920
Rated Cap: 22
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Originally Posted by s2mikon
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Oh, ffs. What is wrong with these people? As a native Californian, I apologize to the rest of you for what we have allowed to happen here. 🙂
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05-26-2021, 11:09 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,775
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Should be able to pick up some nice deals there in coming (months?) years.
So long as registered out of state, then keep bringing it back a few months at a time to travel around the state.
Nevada and Arizona have lots of good parking spots. . .
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05-26-2021, 11:45 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 787
Year: 1993
Coachwork: 44' Newell Coach
Engine: 8v92T Detroit
Rated Cap: 2 adults and two pigeons
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I used Prompt Titles in Phoenix. Paid a third party inspector to look at my bus to change title from bus to motorhome. Put in a small kitchenette with sink, 12v pump, 5 gallon water supply and 5 gallon grey water. In that cabinet I put in a two burner propane cooktop connected to a 11lb propane tank under the cabinet. Added a 12v solar generator, hung a Mr. Buddy self contained propane heater on the wall, put in a small fridge and a twin mattress. Inspector was impressed. The next day I had title and registration completed.
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05-26-2021, 11:47 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 787
Year: 1993
Coachwork: 44' Newell Coach
Engine: 8v92T Detroit
Rated Cap: 2 adults and two pigeons
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Here's a pic.
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05-27-2021, 07:46 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Feb 2021
Posts: 5
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You can get it registered and insured in Arizona with a California Mailing address.
You can get it insured immediately by National General if you remove all the seats except driver. And send 6 pictures showing front,back,side,side. Inside from the front, inside from the back. Have insured in 15 minutes. I have a direct number to an agent.
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05-27-2021, 08:25 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,775
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Please post that agent's contact info here in public
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06-03-2021, 01:03 AM
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Almost There
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: The tops of mountains, the bottoms of valleys, and everywhere in between.
Posts: 89
Year: 1996
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: international
Engine: T444E
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What part of CA if your near El Cajon i know a place was in and out with tags and plates next day all you need is a toilet and the usual paper work in order
My bus is a 96 so I didn’t need a smog I don’t know the rules for your year bus
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06-03-2021, 11:48 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 271
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Convert to a MH
I bought mine added a sink, bed counters, curtains and a divider- drove to DMV they inspected it mind you they wouldn’t step inside at all, then popped the hood amd she wouldn’t climb up to read the numbers so I offered to read the numbers for her.
She approved it and the rest was history. $40/motor home InSurance and exempt from CARB, and registration was a wee bit cheaper than a commercial vehicle.
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06-06-2021, 10:49 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 3
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No worries
I bought my bus from AAA BUS and when i got back to Cali i was so worried about registering it in California but i have a retired Navy buddy that went to the El Cajon DMV and got it registered with no problem so that’s what i did. The CA DMV action has a list of things on their website that are required prior to getting your registration but they never even looked at that all they wanted was the VIN number off the bus. I was in and out in 2 1/2 hrs.
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06-06-2021, 10:52 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 271
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Title
So what did
You get it registered as? A bus or a motor home?
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06-07-2021, 09:42 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 3
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chiu
Thanks Jon! Yes, I've seen the thread. Super helpful!
Do you possibly have a link to the inspection criteria for CA?
Also, will I need to pass motorhome inspection for CA when I transfer it even though I'll have it registered in VA as a motorhome already?
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I sent you a snapshot of the CA requirements. I should also note that i have a couple of CHP buddies that explained to me that circumventing CA DMV when your vehicle will be stored in CA is a recipe for disaster. I’ll also submit my generic attempt to comply with the state’s request.
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08-12-2021, 11:52 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: California
Posts: 9
Year: 2005
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: Cat C7
Rated Cap: 84
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With what you stated you can get commercial vehicle for private use insurance. Otherwise you'll need to meet the minimum requirements of an RV for the insurance company.
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