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Old 02-15-2020, 06:18 AM   #1
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Question Ignoring VT Inspection?

How are those of you with Vermont plates dealing with the inspection requirement? I recently spoke to a skoolie owner with a VT registration who said he just doesn't go to VT...Wouldn't VT just void your registration if you don't keep the inspection current?

For reference, here is info from the VT DMV.
https://dmv.vermont.gov/enforcement-...ction-stations

As a follow-up question; if you have VT plates and live in another state, then who are you insuring with?

The only value I can see for the VT registration is being able to transfer that paper registration to your home state as a bonafide "motorhome" pre-conversion.

I see a lot of VT plates on skoolies. I'd love to hear from some of you about inspections and insurance. Feel free to PM me if you don't want to broadcast this info in public. Thanks!
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Old 02-15-2020, 08:05 AM   #2
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I have never had my motorhome or bus inspected, albeit I drive very little in vermont as when I do I am leaving or coming home from a trip (I live here). Inspections are evidently a state only thing, not enforced outside the state, dont know why.

I have been pulled over in VT in my car for an expired inspection sticker.

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Old 02-15-2020, 03:03 PM   #3
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Some do use the process to get an RV registration that an be transferred to another state, issue arises when the insurance wants to see the completed conversion and then you're stuck with no insurance. Insurance doesn't usually ask where it is registered, normally we are insured before registering.
The state notified me that they don't see a registration in Ga. on my insured bus. I'm registered in Vt., insured in Ga.

Vt site doesn't state any penalties or enforcement info. I'm sure it is most often overlooked as there are many here registered in Vt and renew every year without penalty
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Old 02-15-2020, 09:37 PM   #4
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How are those of you with Vermont plates dealing with the inspection requirement? I recently spoke to a skoolie owner with a VT registration who said he just doesn't go to VT...Wouldn't VT just void your registration if you don't keep the inspection current?
Dunno from "would", in practice No they don't. Enforcement is when a VT cop pulls you over.

Which only happens in VT.

So maybe don't give them ideas?





> As a follow-up question; if you have VT plates and live in another state, then who are you insuring with?


There are many companies, see the thread(s) specific for your state, or start your own.

https://www.skoolie.net/forums/f18/h...ate-28907.html


> The only value I can see for the VT registration is being able to transfer that paper registration to your home state as a bonafide "motorhome" pre-conversion.

No, why would you think that?

Why toss in that "bonafide?" Each state has their standards. . .

It also allows you to only pay the MH rates, and not get a CDL, while you are doing your buildout over time and perhaps living in and driving the bus around, in a more difficult / expensive state or across the country.

That process may take years. Maybe you keep renewing VT forever.
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Old 02-20-2020, 11:59 AM   #5
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My insurer never asked about my registration...
Many states require "proof of insurance" before registration anyway.

As little as I drive the bus (for now) I will retain the Vt. registry cause I like supporting Vt. (I once lived in Vt. a lifetime (or two) ago...)

If I ever get my bus up to Vt I will gladly get it inspected -- might learn something new about my bus!

Only Vermont LEO can (or have any authority to) enforce Vt laws.

Now maybe if you live on the NY or NH border area a sharp cop will notice you don't have the Vt inspection sticker and wonder what other offences your hippy bus harbors... but that would only be "probable cause in his/her mind...
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Old 02-20-2020, 05:39 PM   #6
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In the commercial trucking world, virtually everything is required an annual inspection, regardless where it's based or how much/little it's operated. Since it's often logistically impossible for every single piece of equipment to visit a home state for inspections, and doing so would place a huge burden and bottleneck on a given shop, this is widely distributed over a wide network of company shops and various vendors. Much of the checklist is readily available for free. And here's the thing, the annual D.O.T. inspection is usually more stringent than many state inspections, if you have an annual D.O.T. inspection sticker, most (if not all) states will accept that as proof of inspection (the only exception is emissions, which is not part of the D.O.T. inspection). Typically it includes glass, wipers, lights (all of them, includes proper colors), tires, wheels and fasteners (lug nuts), brakes, suspension, and some other stuff. A proper pre-trip will identify many things that would fail an inspection, most of us will know if our tires are getting worn, a windshield is cracked, a light doesn't function. The inspection is documented proof from a certified shop/mechanic that the vehicle was indeed up to minimum standards.


The inspection may note things like tire tread depths and they may need replaced soon. Tire age isn't usually checked, tire condition including visible deterioration and dry rot usually is. Also, there's a "roadside" inspection that many officers will do, it allows some leeway for many things. For example, the annual inspection requires all brakes to work and be within adjustment, not beyond a certain wear point. The roadside "OOS" (Out-Of-Service) allows up to 20% of brakes to be inoperative (this does *NOT* prevent a violation, however! It simply allows a driver to complete the trip, then get the problem fixed.) For an annual, both/all wipers must work, for the roadside, only the driver's side must work (again, a violation can be written for the non-working one). Tires must be minimum 4/32 tread (steer tires), 2/32 (all other tires. OOS is 2/32, 1/32, respectively (you really don't want to drive tires this smooth anyway).


Since RV's are usually not commercial, there's no federal oversight on annual or minimum inspections. If anyone had their RV/bus D.O.T. inspected (there will usually be a sticker placed noting this, also a form provided, which is expected to stay with the vehicle), I expect most LEO's would accept this as sufficient and on your way you go.
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Old 02-20-2020, 07:34 PM   #7
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All that is federal, under "interstate commerce", some delegated back to the states.

But private citizens and their vehicles are not under any direct federal jurisdiction that is in principle up to each state.

But of course the feds can impose standards over time using funding carrot/sticks
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Old 02-21-2020, 09:44 PM   #8
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I see a lot of discussion here about how your registration or title affects your ability to get either commercial for personal or RV insurance.

I asked my insurance agent about it and she told me that they don't care how it is registered or titled.

I have registered all of my buses as RV's shortly after purchase and carried commercial for personal until the conversion was complete enough to meet the insurance companies requirements for RV insurance and then switched.

I started out with Miller Insurance in Love. Oswego OR. Then, about 20 years ago I switched to State Farm. Both treated me very well.
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Old 02-24-2020, 10:15 AM   #9
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I contacted the Vermont DMV for clarification and this was their response.
"To drive it on the roads in VT it would have to be inspected. The registration would not be suspended but you are subject to a ticket if its not inspected."

My takeaway is that VT is more lenient in their motor vehicle laws than other states. Which is a good enough reason in my mind to support them with tax revenue.
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Old 02-26-2020, 04:32 PM   #10
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I had mine inspected last August. It was the last thing that needed to be done in order to make it legal. They ended up inspecting it as a "large truck" for some reason, but all I cared about was the 8 on my windshield.

Our plan is to snowbird in winter months and come back to our VT camp in summer for 4-5 months. I'll have it reinspected then.
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Old 02-27-2020, 02:59 AM   #11
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How are those of you with Vermont plates dealing with the inspection requirement? I recently spoke to a skoolie owner with a VT registration who said he just doesn't go to VT...Wouldn't VT just void your registration if you don't keep the inspection current?

For reference, here is info from the VT DMV.
https://dmv.vermont.gov/enforcement-...ction-stations

As a follow-up question; if you have VT plates and live in another state, then who are you insuring with?

The only value I can see for the VT registration is being able to transfer that paper registration to your home state as a bonafide "motorhome" pre-conversion.

I see a lot of VT plates on skoolies. I'd love to hear from some of you about inspections and insurance. Feel free to PM me if you don't want to broadcast this info in public. Thanks!
If you are going to drive in VT you'll want to get inspected. Th VT DMV does not verify your inspection and your registration does not hinge upon it. However if you are driving in VT without your inspection sticker you face fines.
Currently living and driving in New Mexico and the southwest with VT tags. Insured with Progressive as commercial for personal use. Registered in VT because New Mexico would not register the school bus as a bus for private use and wanted a pretty complete conversion before reclassifying as RV. Since we wanted to live in it while we build at our own pace as well as use it as our car and truck, VT was a go to choice. They are happy to provide us tags with a New Mexico address on the registration for less than 100 bucks a year.
We pass through border patrol check stations a couple of times a month and put on a couple thousand miles every four or five weeks with no unwanted attention from law enforcement.
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