Is it Legal to register a converted bus as a "Bus"

[PNW_Steve]

Originally Posted by turf

you can register as a bus.

if you do, then

you'll need a commercial drivers license with a passenger endorsement.
you'll need a commercial vehicle insurance.
your bus will have to pass safety inspections each year.
you will have to stop at all weigh stations
you will be subject to driving time limits and HOS

its cheapest to convert the title to motor home or rv. most states let a normal driver's license operate an rv. its cheaper to insure an rv. the are no DOT regulations covering RVs, no need to stop at weigh stations.


the word "bus" means "commercial" to any insurance agent or law officer. Bus means you are transporting passengers for money.

the words "rv" or "rv conversion" means it is a private vehicle. its not subject to commercial rules.

in dealing with the dmv and insurers, it will go much easier if you stop confusing them with the word "bus" and use "RV" instead.

Best to check your individual state.

Here in Washington State you can title & register as a bus and NOT need a CDL unless it is over 26k lbs or used in commercial enterprise or equipped to carry more than a certain number of passengers. I think the number is 6.

So... If you have a bus that is under 26k lbs and is not used in commerce and only has seats for 5 passengers (or less) you may title/register it as a bus and do not need a CDL to operate it.

I currently have the E450 cutaway that I am working on titled & registered as a Motor Home and insured as a bus for personal use. All legal and I have been straight up and honest with DOL and my insurance company.

Edit: I may be mistaken on the number of passangers that trigger the CDL requirement. It may in fact be 16 not 6.

[FunkyChickenBus]

In SC mine is a bus, personal use only. I titled it as that after purchasing in NC where it was titled the same. Shorty, not converted 14 pax. No cdl needed and RV insurance here through Progressive. Liability only for less than $300 a year.