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04-22-2024, 11:58 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 21
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Liability only??
So skoolie insurance…are we talking liability only? 30k is a bunch to put into a vehicle and not be insured. Does anybody get a policy with coverage other than straight liability?
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04-22-2024, 05:19 PM
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#2
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 502
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird Mini-Bird 24'
Chassis: Chevy P30
Engine: Chevy 6.2L Diesel
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Considering how home-brew most skoolies are... there is no way in hell an adjuster, appraiser, risk analyst, underwriter, or any other type of quant will be able to accurately assess any potential anything on a skoolie. For a number of reasons, actually. Primarily, there really aren't enough skoolies out there for meaningful data to be had; the ones that are are so all-over the spectrum that you can't really make real decisions on them, and lastly, there really isn't much of a call for it unless you're planning on trying to screw the insurance company.
You could possibly get something more than liability insurance if you're driving a prevost chassis or an MCI or something more substantial that is purpose built AND you have it converted by some kind of major conversions company.
But for home-brew? Not on your life. Even if you keep all the receipts, and document the process. And you pay out the ass for your premiums, while also accepting a contract that, one way or another, let's them off the hook for pretty much everything. That's basically the point of insurance.
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04-23-2024, 06:31 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,533
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Albatross
Considering how home-brew most skoolies are... there is no way in hell an adjuster, appraiser, risk analyst, underwriter, or any other type of quant will be able to accurately assess any potential anything on a skoolie. For a number of reasons, actually. Primarily, there really aren't enough skoolies out there for meaningful data to be had; the ones that are are so all-over the spectrum that you can't really make real decisions on them, and lastly, there really isn't much of a call for it unless you're planning on trying to screw the insurance company.
You could possibly get something more than liability insurance if you're driving a prevost chassis or an MCI or something more substantial that is purpose built AND you have it converted by some kind of major conversions company.
But for home-brew? Not on your life. Even if you keep all the receipts, and document the process. And you pay out the ass for your premiums, while also accepting a contract that, one way or another, let's them off the hook for pretty much everything. That's basically the point of insurance.
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no idea on skoolie but this is handled in the classic car community with declared value insurance.. now it isnt a blanket thing that the insurance company will pay your full declared value in a full loss, however doing exactly what you mention, receipts, lots of photos, videos, documentation ,etc are exactly how its done.. its often a fight but ive known people to get decent payouts.. I got a good payout on the 81 completely custom fleetwood cadillac i had that i wiped out on the side of a Semi truck.. I had photo after photo of that car.. a scrap book of how I built it and what I did.. now maybe my pasyout was good because the trucker was high as a kite (in the late 90s / early 00's weed def wasnt legal anywhere ).. but what got the numbers higher and higher was all the docs i had of that build.. no I couldnt build anither one for what I got but I got a lot more than a regular 20 year old fleetwood in excellent shape wouldve netted me..
my busses carry full coverage through 2 different insurers (due to age limits on them).. but both are declared value policies that I update each year when i renew..
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04-23-2024, 02:54 PM
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#4
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 502
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird Mini-Bird 24'
Chassis: Chevy P30
Engine: Chevy 6.2L Diesel
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That's good to know about the declared value thing.
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04-23-2024, 07:47 PM
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#5
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,451
Year: 1993
Coachwork: bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins, Allison AT1545
Rated Cap: 2
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i have full coverage on my rig. after i finished my electrical, i figured it was good time to cover my ass.
the insurance company lists my bluebird as a wanderlodge of the same year.
that wanderlodge depreciates the same as everything else, so it may not be worth carrying the coverage any more.
when i had liability only, i was paying only $40/year, now, with collision, comprehensive, liabilty, and roadside i pay about $1000/year.
hope i never make a claim on it.
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08-12-2024, 10:03 PM
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#6
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New Member
Join Date: Jul 2024
Posts: 5
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Hello, I just purchased a 98 International 3000. The bus is housed in Alabama and I am having difficulty getting insurance. Any Suggestions?
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08-13-2024, 08:49 AM
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#7
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Central Tx.
Posts: 2,355
Year: 1999
Chassis: Amtran / International
Engine: DT466E HT 250HP - Md3060
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Originally Posted by Serenity Communities
Hello, I just purchased a 98 International 3000. The bus is housed in Alabama and I am having difficulty getting insurance. Any Suggestions?
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08-13-2024, 10:42 AM
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#8
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Alabama
Posts: 119
Year: 2005
Coachwork: International
Chassis: RE300
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 30 + 2 WC
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I have mine through Good Sam, who I believe underwrote it through National General. It's funny because Good Sam provides my insurance, but won't provide the roadside assistance they are famous for (I have Coachnet for that)
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08-13-2024, 11:15 AM
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#9
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New Member
Join Date: Jul 2024
Posts: 5
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OH wow, I have State Farm for my cars but my agent said they could not cover the bus. I am also interested in raising the room next summer. Would love to get as much input as possible.
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08-13-2024, 11:21 AM
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#10
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Central Tx.
Posts: 2,355
Year: 1999
Chassis: Amtran / International
Engine: DT466E HT 250HP - Md3060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Serenity Communities
OH wow, I have State Farm for my cars but my agent said they could not cover the bus. I am also interested in raising the room next summer. Would love to get as much input as possible.
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Raising the room ??? interesting !!!
I believe you meant ROOF... Well if insurance is hard for you now, it is much tougher with a raised roof !!!
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08-13-2024, 11:26 AM
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#11
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New Member
Join Date: Jul 2024
Posts: 5
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Please forgive my typo. LOL I agree. I am trying to get the insurance today or tomorrow because I will be taking a short trip Thursday (a few hours down the road) then next week I will be taking it to Chicago for 7 days.
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08-13-2024, 04:17 PM
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#12
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Michigan
Posts: 17
Year: 2001
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 30,000lbs
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I have commercial basic liability on the bus. Anything else was to hard to come by in Michigan. Seemed to be the easiest way without jumping through hoops. About $800 a year with progressive.
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08-13-2024, 09:32 PM
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#13
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New Member
Join Date: Jul 2024
Posts: 5
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Awesome. Thank you for the info. I will look into it and make more calls. Thank you once again.
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08-14-2024, 11:23 AM
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#14
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: VA, Clarke & Greene Counties
Posts: 383
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: VIN = 1T7HR3B2311090770
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: ~72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Albatross
Considering how home-brew most skoolies are... there is no way in hell an adjuster, appraiser, risk analyst, underwriter, or any other type of quant will be able to accurately assess any potential anything on a skoolie.
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That is why those of us willing to do so should put in the work to fix that problem.
https://www.skoolie.net/forums/f13/s...ess-44111.html
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08-14-2024, 11:47 AM
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#15
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,451
Year: 1993
Coachwork: bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins, Allison AT1545
Rated Cap: 2
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******* insurance questions.
quit calling it a bus
to an insurance agent or the dmv.... a bus delivers people for money.
allstate and state farm dont insure buses
you want rv insurance.
some years when i renew plates in person, i'll slip and say i need plates for the bus. the clerk looks at their screen confused. on their screen my "bus" shows up as a "rv" so they don't know which vehicle im talking about.
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