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Old 07-19-2023, 09:44 PM   #1
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Los Angeles area 40ft with Airbrakes. Does anybody want to make a few hour's income..

I will find out tomorrow if I need the Non-Commercial B CDL and Air test completed. OR the C class Noncommercial is good to go. God help me, really hoping the Blue-bird all American 40 ft with Cummins 8.3 and Allison MD3060 is listed 26000 GWVR and NOT 260001 or Higher GWVR, Over needs the non-Commerical B.

If I need to take the test, I need someone to drive to the DMV so I can take the test. And since My Bus wont be here (I have to pick it up in Vegas) I am hoping to get a few hours of lessons and then take the test on someone else's for a few dollars assistance. And there is a Legal specific that says can't take the test for 14 days after the written. So it will be a few weeks yet.

If anybody is interested... please reach out to me.
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Old 07-20-2023, 05:37 AM   #2
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God help me, really hoping the Blue-bird all American 40 ft with Cummins 8.3 and Allison MD3060 is listed 26000 GWVR and NOT 260001 or Higher GWVR, Over needs the non-Commerical B.
Pretty sure that bus will be 33K or 36K GVWR. Even my 35' International CE300 is 29K.

That being said, getting a CDL will be good for your own safety and that of other drivers around you.
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Old 07-20-2023, 10:09 AM   #3
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Pretty sure that bus will be 33K or 36K GVWR. Even my 35' International CE300 is 29K.

That being said, getting a CDL will be good for your own safety and that of other drivers around you.
if you get a cdl you must get a medical certificate every year even if you do not drive or they will automatically downgrade your licence to operator. convert the bus for personal use and get the air endorsment
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Old 07-20-2023, 10:10 AM   #4
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if you get a cdl you must get a medical certificate every year even if you do not drive or they will automatically downgrade your licence to operator. convert the bus for personal use and get the air endorsment
i retired from driving otr and got a nasty letter explaining this when my medical expired
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Old 07-20-2023, 10:30 AM   #5
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According to Cal DMV, as a non commercial B. The medical is a questionnaire and sign off from a doctor. IF I remember she said every 2 years.
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Old 07-20-2023, 10:32 AM   #6
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Bummer, The only number I found so far was 26-33 But that is not specific, Still awaiting nomenclature number.
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Old 07-20-2023, 11:14 AM   #7
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i retired from driving otr and got a nasty letter explaining this when my medical expired
In Florida you can claim an exemption to the medical card if you certify that you drive agricultural vehicles. They don’t check/verify the info.

So you can basically drive just one day of the year and not be required to have a medical card. Other states may have this, it is not advertised so you will have to dig for the info.

And yes, a bus is used by farmers all the time to transport field workers.
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Old 07-20-2023, 11:41 AM   #8
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Interesting... will keep it in mind.
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Old 07-20-2023, 12:18 PM   #9
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According to Cal DMV, as a non commercial B. The medical is a questionnaire and sign off from a doctor. IF I remember she said every 2 years.
Yea this is the way to go I was replying to them getting a cdl that they do not need or want
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Old 07-20-2023, 12:20 PM   #10
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In Florida you can claim an exemption to the medical card if you certify that you drive agricultural vehicles. They donít check/verify the info.

So you can basically drive just one day of the year and not be required to have a medical card. Other states may have this, it is not advertised so you will have to dig for the info.

And yes, a bus is used by farmers all the time to transport field workers.
A lot of those exemptions only apply in the issuing state. May not work across state lines
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Old 07-20-2023, 12:53 PM   #11
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A lot of those exemptions only apply in the issuing state. May not work across state lines
Your statement is correct.

I checked FMCSA and this was what I found...

"However, a State may exempt operators of farm vehicles from its CDL requirements. A farm vehicle waiver is limited to the driver’s home State unless there is a reciprocal agreement with adjoining States."

source->https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/hours-serv...s-fmcsa-safety

So I guess the "driver" would need to check if their exists a reciprocal agreement.
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Old 07-20-2023, 01:07 PM   #12
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Found some information from a CA website that is more specific.
From my initial reading, a non commercial CDL would be required...to me that would indicate that a medical card is not required since it is a NON-Commerical activity exempted under the FMSCA.

Source-> https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/handbo...-requirements/
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Found some information from a CA website that is more specific.
From my initial reading, a non commercial CDL would be required...to me that would indicate that a medical card is not required since it is a NON-Commerical activity exempted under the FMSCA.

Source-> https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/handbo...-requirements/
"Non-commercial Commercial Driver's License" is oxymoronic!

An RV longer than 40 feet will require its driver to have a non-commercial Class B license (with a medical certificate), but RVs no longer than 40 feet can be driven with a regular Class C. This presupposes that they are registered as a Motorhome (previously a "House Car" in California-speak). To do so requires one to have converted it sufficiently that it will pass muster as a genuine usable RV, and that it cannot be converted back to be a passenger-hauling bus ever again. If it's not yet a Motorhome you will need a non-commercial Class B for any vehicle over 26,000 lbs GVWR; Motorhomes not exceeding 40 feet are the only vehicles that can be driven with a Class C regardless of their GVWR.

In California a privately-owned and privately-used ex-school bus will usually be registered as "AUTO (BU)", but this will raise red flags with our friends at CARB who automatically assume that BU means a commercial bus. My bus was registered that way after I purchased it, but it started becoming difficult and then impossible to renew its registration a few years ago. I had a private (non-DMV) vehicle registration service re-register my bus as a Motorhome, so now I have a new Pink Slip and annual registration document showing the magic "MH" on it. Even doing that, CARB will make it increasingly difficult to register it in CA in the future, so now I am researching out-of-state alternatives. It seems that CA just doesn't want any older diesel vehicles at all, and converting my bus to have a DPF or completely repowering it is not possible. If I need to change my domicile to another state, so be it.

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Old 07-20-2023, 02:34 PM   #14
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Im glad i donít live in Commiefornia !
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Old 07-20-2023, 03:10 PM   #15
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I kept my cdl and stay current on my medical now and if I lived closer I would help so start checking any freshly retired truck drivers in your area. Or a beer truck driver friend
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I will find out tomorrow if I need the Non-Commercial B CDL and Air test completed. OR the C class Noncommercial is good to go. God help me, really hoping the Blue-bird all American 40 ft with Cummins 8.3 and Allison MD3060 is listed 26000 GWVR and NOT 260001 or Higher GWVR, Over needs the non-Commerical B.

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Did you buy that one that just sold at Las Vegas Bus Sales?
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Old 07-26-2023, 10:42 PM   #17
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no, what should i know?
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no, what should i know?
No. Your description of the bus you purchased is identical to one that Las Vegas Bus Sales just listed as sold.
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Old 07-26-2023, 11:44 PM   #19
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Old 07-27-2023, 01:32 PM   #20
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I will find out tomorrow if I need the Non-Commercial B CDL and Air test completed. OR the C class Noncommercial is good to go. God help me, really hoping the Blue-bird all American 40 ft with Cummins 8.3 and Allison MD3060 is listed 26000 GWVR and NOT 260001 or Higher GWVR, Over needs the non-Commerical B.
I hate to say it, but you're gonna be over. Go to the bluebird portal and it'll tell you, just put in your VIN.

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I have the same bus and it's listed at 36200 GVWR.
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