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Old 08-30-2023, 11:08 PM   #41
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At state borders, drive right on past the Port Of Entry like you own the place.
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I wonder if wearing your Halloween costume would help the government agents ignore you FURTHER.
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A thread on VanDwelling asks about the worst side-sign to deter looters and other nincompoops.
For you, how about do your scoot in a moon-suit and a dual-filter respirator... with placards about contagious cooties?
Print a few business cards listing fauci-friends for your contacts?
Oozing buckets of slime next to the entry for that extra oomph?
Could a stage smoke-machine be rented to add a sense of mystique?
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I know I would...

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Old 08-30-2023, 11:10 PM   #42
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Its frustrating when there is Stead fast knowledge, which I am happy to take, that may not be what is pertinent to the changes that have happened very recently.

And MUCH OF IT is coming from the FED and being pushed to the states.

CAL DMV can't figure it out for themselves. Can you drive at risk? Sure.
Might you get away with it? Sure.

And if you don't?
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Old 08-31-2023, 08:08 AM   #43
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+lots of iffy info here that could get you some problems call each state for info dont trust this place. as far as blowing ports of entry .....yea dont do it if there is a sign hat says busses. most will be ok but check every state. even rvs must cross some scales and it is posted there. follow the signs. if it looks safe most dot wont mess with you but get your info from each state not here. i crossed 1 state that required a permit for 10 dollars. i just paid it and taped it into the back window
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Old 08-31-2023, 08:11 AM   #44
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when you going? i might have a overnite spot by little rock ark
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Old 08-31-2023, 08:20 AM   #45
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do you have access to a friend that lives in nc? if you could just use that and register it there and have them send it to you. call nc dmv and tell them you are moving there and want the plates so you can drive it there. nc folks are very helpful so i think you should try them
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Old 08-31-2023, 08:31 AM   #46
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thank you good to know
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Old 08-31-2023, 08:32 AM   #47
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thanks for the info, no friends there as yet, and it would be worth a phone call.
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Old 08-31-2023, 09:10 AM   #48
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Luck has nothing to do with it. You've been given much good advice here from many others with previous experiences in moving buses cross country. Most of them don't have any kind of commercial licenses either.

If you remove most of the seats you will also improve the profile of the bus to being an RV conversion in process and no repercussions will ensue, if you even draw any attention.

You're being overly paranoid and asking for help and advice and then ignoring what's being offered to help you out. So be it. As long as you continue taking that attitude no one here can help you. You obviously are going to pursue your own course of actions with little regards to our well intentioned collective suggestions.

We've seen this type of behavior before from others soliciting help and then ignoring and or disparaging the help being offered, and acting like they knew better anyway. Eventually our collective response is to ignore your bleating and wish you well in your chosen endeavors. Since you seem to have your mind made up on the matter.

So here's me wishing you well and good luck if you choose not to heed my advice, which there will be no more forthcoming.

thats what I did with my Superior... Oregon DMV was giving me H E double L to get a tag even though I had an oregon title and a bill of sale for it.. so I printed a Sign "Vehicle in Transit Not for Hire" in big letters for the back window and off I went 2700 miles...

I didnt haul ass I didnt overload the thing .. I didnt make a scene anywhere.. just drove it nice N easy and no worries.. was a fun road trip in a vintage bus thats become my favorite for cruising around now.. (its not really a long trip cruiser like a crown)
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Old 08-31-2023, 09:43 AM   #49
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Insurance companies now have access to state registration data in many states and will refuse to insure a vehicle if not registered to you. This is due to mandatory insurance laws that have been passed. If you cancel or the insurance carrier cancel a policy it is sent to the state and flagged as uninsured. Then you get a nasty gram from the state. Some are now requiring that the Drivers licence and registration match. Just another step in controlling the process.
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Old 08-31-2023, 09:47 AM   #50
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Old 08-31-2023, 10:02 AM   #51
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insurance companies look for the lowest risk. if my license and address says rural ohio but I really live in california where im more likely to get into an accident (lots heavier traffic) then they want to know.. ive not heard of a state that lets you have a registration mismatch.. some are lax about enforcement.. for the couple years i had a condo in florida I had ohio plates and ohio license... and a florida condo.. they never bugged me about my ohio plates.. now when I went ot get a parking permit for the street outside of my apartment building, then florida said I should have a florida license and only gave me a temporary 30 day and specifically said (as it must happen alot) no commercial vehcles or RV's(oops so much for the bus).... I honestly never told my ins co about the florida condo.. one of my cars was always there in the garage...the rate was WAY HIGHER
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Old 08-31-2023, 10:44 AM   #52
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Possibly a different state besides California might be a better choice?

(Couldn't help it....)
Legitimate point!
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Old 08-31-2023, 10:51 AM   #53
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Okay, here's what I think--you've put yourself in a title pickle, where the root cause of the problem is that you can't untangle the ownership enough to take advantage of temp travel permits.

What would the hit be to walk away from that bus and get another?

And you mention 'can't be registered in Cali'? Is this a diesel but that is now excluded?

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Old 08-31-2023, 11:40 AM   #54
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It looks like a 2002 diesel bus over 14000 gvw and can not be registered any more in CA. If it was a motor home or house car in CA speak it could be registered. I was able to get a permit to take a pre 2011 out of the state because I was an out of state resident and it was still insured. I was just the driver not the owner. But the OP needs insurance but does not have title. He is in a jam, and just driving it without permits, insurance or proper licence class is just an invitation to loose it and all of his belongings in it.
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Old 08-31-2023, 02:08 PM   #55
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Nothing before 2010 Can be registered In Cali is what I now understand about diesels. It’s a 2002.
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Old 08-31-2023, 02:47 PM   #56
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Here is a link for you about exempt vehicles. https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/our-work/prog...on/truck-bus-0
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Old 08-31-2023, 02:50 PM   #57
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the first thing I see is:
Diesel vehicles with a GVWR greater than 14,000 lbs.
So all of the rest of the exemptions do not apply.
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Old 08-31-2023, 02:56 PM   #58
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My 91 was registered in CA a few years ago and it was exempt. Read it a little closer. My cousin is still there and has an 07 motorhome 27000 gvw and it is exempt too.
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Old 08-31-2023, 02:57 PM   #59
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I don't understand how the other exemptions apply if the weight is over the numbers. I was told it is not either or.
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It is called the Truck and Bus Regulation Program. A motorhome / house car is not a bus. If you read the regs it specifically states: "Motorhomes used for non-commercial private use including vehicles converted to a motorhome. “Motorhome” means a single vehicular unit designed for human habitation for recreational or emergency occupancy and built on, or permanently attached to, a self-propelled motor vehicle chassis, chassis cab, or van, which becomes an integral part of the complete vehicle or a vehicle that exclusively tows a trailer that was originally designed for human habitation for recreational or emergency occupancy." So if it was converted to a motorhome you should be able to register it.
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