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Old 08-31-2023, 04:41 PM   #61
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So here is what I have been beating my head against the wall with for weeks with the DMV. There is a grey zone between House Car and Commercial that is not in the current books. The DMV doesn’t know the Answer and you get a different answer from each person.
IF IT weighs or is Nomenclatured for 26001 lbs It falls to NON commercial B Drivers License. It does not matter if it is a RV or not . House car definition does not Apply if it is over 26001. The Registered before 2010. Was stated as a no go if it was a diesel, heavy vehicle.
And again, it entirely;y depends on who you talk to. So even if you are 100% right. It will depend on who you get at the DMV to Deal with.

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Old 08-31-2023, 05:06 PM   #62
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Has it been converted to a motorhome?
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Old 08-31-2023, 07:28 PM   #63
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For the first twelve years that I had my bus it was registered as AUTO (BU), but a few years ago CARB put a hold on its registration, presumably because they assumed BU meant a commercial bus. I had it re-registered as a Motorhome / "Housecar", along with a new Pink Slip with the magic letters MH on it, and (so far) I've registered it each subsequent year without a problem, touch wood, cross fingers etc. I used a commercial vehicle registration service, and it was an easy painless process. So saying, my bus is mostly converted, and just one glance inside it will tell even the most stupid of LEOs or DMV employees that it cannot ever be returned to anything resembling commercial or school bus service.

My understanding is that California requires a Non-Commercial Class B for RVs only when they're longer than 40 feet OAL, regardless* of their weight. Has this changed recently?

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Old 08-31-2023, 08:46 PM   #64
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Class C is for 40ft or shorter and under 26000 GVWR. Over 40 ft and 26000 GCWR you need a non commercial class B. So, if the OP's bus is under 26000 GVWR his class C is good.
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Old 08-31-2023, 10:21 PM   #65
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Yes Weight over 26001 Matters.
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Old 08-31-2023, 10:22 PM   #66
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Its gutted
I am using it as a moving van prior to build out
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Old 08-31-2023, 11:22 PM   #67
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Thanks for the Offer, My date keeps getting pushed back. I still haven't done the fluids Flush and Filter changes. Hopefully doing that this week.
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Old 09-01-2023, 12:36 AM   #68
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Insurance companies...access...registration data in many states and...refuse to insure a vehicle if not registered to you... Some are...requiring...the Drivers licence and registration match...
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Well, I guess we are just lucky!
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All of our vehicles are registered in various made-up fictional names.
What might these be?
How about:
* Doug Fir
* Tasmani 'Tassy' Tiger
* J. Urassic Park (an honorable Korean gentleman)
* Peter Bilt
* Ken Worth
... and so forth.
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None of our vehicles are registered to us.
All of our road vehicles are insured.
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Old 09-01-2023, 01:05 AM   #69
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...DMV doesn’t know...
IF IT weighs or is Nomenclatured for 26001 lbs It falls to NON commercial B Drivers License. It does not matter if it is a RV...House car definition does not Apply if it is over 26001. The Registered before 2010...depend on who you get at the DMV....
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Cripes.
You have the patience of a saint.
I salute you... a better person than me!
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a)
If I dislike the answer from one bureaucrat, I go back another day.
If that branch is staffed by 'corporate types', I go to a different branch.
I 'shop' for the answer I like.
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b)
Every day, I see 80yo geezers driving 45' BillionBuxBus conversions.
Those things weigh twenty ton give-or-take a couple stacy-abrahms.
Call it an even fifty thousand pounds.
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I doubt not a one has anything other than a standard sedan license.
But, then again, they are geezers, they bested the Kaiser and put Neil on the moon.
A mere technicality scribbled by some nameless faceless drone deep in the bowels of the Hive?
Insignificant, unworthy of their time nor energy.
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c)
How does fussing with California bumblebrats get your rig to North Carolina.
You are in the 'getting-home' business, right?
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d)
The government agents are in the 'tax-collector' business.
The government agents are not in the make-you-happy business.
The government agents crave paperwork -- worse than a vampire craves your veins and longs for your arteries -- to justify their existence... as well you know from the name on the building -- 'Bureau Of Justifying Our Existence'.

Plain as day.
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e)
Please, keep posting about your 'special' relationship with the bureaucrats.
I think this thread is vastly amusing.
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