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05-28-2018, 12:57 AM
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Almost There
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Raleigh nc
Posts: 86
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Sc or nc
Just moved I can use my NC address or my moms Sc address which would be easier to register will I have to change my title? Anything helps thanks
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05-28-2018, 07:54 AM
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#2
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Upstate, SC
Posts: 164
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: DTA360
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I just went to the scdmv with a title transfer request. Confused the hell out of three people but they accepted it with no pictures or anything. I requested that they mail the title instead of print it out right there. Big mistake. It’s been 8 weeks and I JUST NOW have been informed they’ve finally released it to be mailed to me as an rv instead of bus. So all in all it was very easy with no proof of conversion but took some time for the title to be changed over. YMMV
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05-28-2018, 09:09 AM
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#3
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Almost There
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Raleigh nc
Posts: 86
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Is it better to have changed into an rv title?
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05-28-2018, 09:13 AM
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#4
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Upstate, SC
Posts: 164
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: DTA360
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Unless you have a cdl, definitely. You can’t legally drive a school bus unless it’s changed over. Plus insurability and taxation advantages.
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05-28-2018, 10:45 AM
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#5
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thrifty1
Unless you have a cdl, definitely. You can’t legally drive a school bus unless it’s changed over. Plus insurability and taxation advantages.
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You can't legally drive a school bus "for profit or commercial use" without a CDL. You don't need to change anything over to drive it.
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05-28-2018, 10:48 AM
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#6
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lherrlinger
Is it better to have changed into an rv title?
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The reason you want the title change to RV is because most insurance companies will not insure it as a bus, but will as an RV after at least 4 of the 6 criteria are met.Standard procedure is to obtain a "commercial for private use" policy while converting and then once finished, convert the title and insure as RV or MH.
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05-28-2018, 10:50 AM
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#7
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Upstate, SC
Posts: 164
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: DTA360
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Why then, do you need a cdl to drive a church bus? Is that technically commercial? I’ve always assumed that a cdl was needed on that basis but could be wrong, it’s happened before. A lot.
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05-28-2018, 10:57 AM
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#8
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thrifty1
Why then, do you need a cdl to drive a church bus? Is that technically commercial? I’ve always assumed that a cdl was needed on that basis but could be wrong, it’s happened before. A lot.
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Schools and Churches are considered commercial if it can carry 16 passengers.
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05-28-2018, 11:00 AM
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#9
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thrifty1
Why then, do you need a cdl to drive a church bus? Is that technically commercial? I’ve always assumed that a cdl was needed on that basis but could be wrong, it’s happened before. A lot.
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It varies by state. Here in WA, if it will seat 16 or more people, you must have a CDL regardless of what you are using it for.
That is the law here.
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05-28-2018, 12:05 PM
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#10
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Charlotte NC
Posts: 30
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I live in NC, but have thought of using my SC address to register my city transit bus because NC still has "safety and emissions inspections. SC doesn't have "smog & emissions" inspections.
NC does meet the Federal clean air standards and was considering discontinuing these taxes, but the "State Inspection" stations are private businesses and hired lobbyist to continue the theft from vehicle owners.
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05-28-2018, 01:24 PM
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#11
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Swansboro,NC
Posts: 2,973
Year: 86
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
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I live in NC and had no problems with registration as a bus for personal use or getting insurance as the same.
Your regular NC license says you are good up to 26,001 GVW
If you need help with insurance let me know my nationwide agent has helped cover three other skoolies in NC with no problem.
Good luck
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05-28-2018, 01:31 PM
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#12
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Swansboro,NC
Posts: 2,973
Year: 86
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
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I have been having to do a full DOT inspection but that is because none of my local regular vehicle inspection shops will touch it and the big truck shops only do full DOT.
It is 50$ instead of 15$ but is worth it to me to have someone that knows air brakes and the likes inspect it yearly.
My local truck shop just says I ain't gonna fail you but I would like to see this taken care of next inspection and they let me crawl around with them and point out things and as long as I have taken care of it they are happy just saying look into this or replace that and let me go.
Good luck and have fun
Safety first.
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05-28-2018, 03:27 PM
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#13
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Charlotte NC
Posts: 30
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Thanks for your reply Jolly Roger. I'm all in favor in driving a vehicle that is safe.
I haven't done anything with my transit bus since I bought it. My insurance agent came up with some insurance that was quite inexpensive. I needed to sort a few things out on my bus before I put it on the road. I have 6 vehicles now that I pay for taxes, tags, insurance, etc on and i'm only able to drive one at a time.
NC, continuing to require these inspections offends me...6 times a year. It's about job security for the inspection stations. NC won't issue me a tag without it being inspected. I don't want to drive it on the road without a tag.
I acquired a used pickup that had been recently inspected. I went to get a tag. I had to get it inspected again before they would sell me a tag. Thieves...
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06-11-2018, 10:25 AM
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#14
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Almost There
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Raleigh nc
Posts: 86
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Jolly r
Hey Jolly Roger any price range on insurance or does anyone have a ballpark on insurance prices on a bus converted to an rv or motor home
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10-28-2018, 08:28 AM
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#15
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New Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 6
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so let me get this straight. If the bus is classified as a rv you don't have to have a cdl?
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10-28-2018, 10:19 AM
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#16
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Not unless you use it "commercially".
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10-28-2018, 11:42 AM
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#17
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barryj
so let me get this straight. If the bus is classified as a rv you don't have to have a cdl?
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That's how it works here in WA but it does vary by state.
Some states require enhanced licensing requirements. I would check with your states licensing authority.
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10-28-2018, 01:28 PM
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#18
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Swansboro,NC
Posts: 2,973
Year: 86
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
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Sorry. I missed the other comments from June?
I am insured as a bus for personal use and only have to have a normal state vehicle inspection.
But none of the shops/garages around here that do normal inspections will touch my bus? They say they don't have the equipment to lift it and it has to be lifted for inspection?
So I go to a place that works on and inspects medium/heavy trucks for a living and watch them do a full DOT inspection without lifting it.
Only required to do the 15$ vehicle inspection but am happy paying the 50$ for the inspection from someone that knows exactly what there looking for/looking at.
I know a good bit about my buses working's but I don't know it all?
So a real inspection from a shop that knows what there looking at is worth the extra money to me everytime I take it down the road for piece of mind.
And if I am local then they are my chance at getting road side service and they know exactly what I have as far engine,tranny,tire's just because of inspection reports.
Hope this helps
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10-29-2018, 08:26 AM
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#19
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 52
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: Dt 466e
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It doesn't even have to be titled as an RV to be driven without a CDL in NC. Its just weight and number of passengers it can carry.
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10-29-2018, 10:17 AM
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#20
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 251
Year: 2007
Coachwork: ICCORP
Chassis: CE300
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 16
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It’s important to convert it to an RV because emissions on Diesel vehicles over 14000 (or something close) need to meet current federal emissions guidelines. Motor homes are exempt.
I’m not sure if that’s a CARB requirement/exemption or a Fed requirement/exemption.
But it provides one explanation as to why so many trucks and busses get sold/new engines at 10 years intervals.
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