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04-28-2018, 06:35 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Palmer, AK
Posts: 279
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf T Liner MVP 11 window 32’
Engine: CAT 3126E
Rated Cap: 72
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Canada bound this morning
Bought our beauty from a super nice family outside of Spokane yesterday. Spent the night at my driving partners place just north of Bonner’s Ferry, ID. Deer & elk everywhere, it’s beautiful here! Getting underway for Palmer, AK (home) this morning after first light!
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04-28-2018, 09:44 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
Posts: 1,793
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: B3800 Short bus
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 36
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It's a nice time of year for a drive, too! Enjoy the trip.
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04-28-2018, 09:57 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: near Christiansburg VA
Posts: 692
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 44 or 66? 11 rows
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>...Bought my beauty...
Does it have air brakes? If you don't have an air brake endorsement on your driver's license, better not go into Canada!
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04-28-2018, 10:43 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dapplecreek
>...Bought my beauty...
Does it have air brakes? If you don't have an air brake endorsement on your driver's license, better not go into Canada!
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This is so not true.
The United States and Canada have full reciprocity of Driving Licenses. If one idiot at a particular Provincial border is causing chaos, then he needs pulling back in line.
US drivers in most states can't even get an air-brake endorsement, because their state doesn't offer one ... In fact, I can't find a state that does. The only oddball is PA, where they say that any air-brake vehicle requires a Non Commercial Class B, regardless of weight.
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04-28-2018, 11:28 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: near Christiansburg VA
Posts: 692
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 44 or 66? 11 rows
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twigg
This is so not true.
The United States and Canada have full reciprocity of Driving Licenses. ...
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Huh. I've seen cautionary tales all over the place in the past, and was giving my best to you. But on digging through the official BC sites I couldn't find a thing.
Twigg: thanks!
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04-28-2018, 11:39 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dapplecreek
Huh. I've seen cautionary tales all over the place in the past, and was giving my best to you. But on digging through the official BC sites I couldn't find a thing.
Twigg: thanks!
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I've seen the same tales. I've yet to see a first-hand experience that could tell us what went wrong.
Even Canada only insists on the air-brake endorsement for drivers from those Provinces that mandate it.
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04-28-2018, 12:39 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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I traveled three Canadian Provinces without an air brake endorsement. I was ignorant of the requirements until months after the end of my trip.
No one in ON, AB or BC bothered to educate me.
That said, there is a respected member here shared his experience of being stopped by the weighmaster crossing from WA to BC.
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04-28-2018, 01:12 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
I traveled three Canadian Provinces without an air brake endorsement. I was ignorant of the requirements until months after the end of my trip.
No one in ON, AB or BC bothered to educate me.
That said, there is a respected member here shared his experience of being stopped by the weighmaster crossing from WA to BC.
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Does an RV even have to go through a weigh station?
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04-28-2018, 01:12 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,830
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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I think part of the issue is that no one seems to really know what is reaslly required and what isnt.. that goes for the various DMV's in the US.. and the weighmaster stations in canada as well as weight stations in the US.
I klnow for a fact in Ohio you call the DSMV 3 different times and get 3 different answers as to what is truly required..
-Christopher
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04-28-2018, 01:16 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twigg
Does an RV even have to go through a weigh station?
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Not if it's not a commercial vehicle.
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04-28-2018, 07:42 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Not if it's not a commercial vehicle.
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Several states require certain non-commercial vehicles to stop at weigh stations.
A good summary of various state requirements can be found here: http://drivinglaws.aaa.com/tag/weigh-stations/
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04-28-2018, 08:58 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
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So that's a nightmare.
Might as well just stop. Takes about 10 seconds and as about half the states seem to want any vehicle over 26000 lbs to stop, better safe than sorry.
You don't pass them that often, and they are frequently closed.
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04-30-2018, 10:52 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: SW New Hampshire
Posts: 1,334
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If you do stop, what's the usual experience? Are you waved through when they figure out you're an RV? Do they not believe you when you claim RV status, documentation to the contrary? Do you get a paper weight printout (which might be useful)?
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04-30-2018, 11:01 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-fox
If you do stop, what's the usual experience? Are you waved through when they figure out you're an RV? Do they not believe you when you claim RV status, documentation to the contrary? Do you get a paper weight printout (which might be useful)?
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All I got when I pulled onto the scale was a disembodied voice telling me I was good to go.
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05-01-2018, 04:38 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Palmer, AK
Posts: 279
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf T Liner MVP 11 window 32’
Engine: CAT 3126E
Rated Cap: 72
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made it home!!
Just a quick hello...wanted to pass on that we made it home. About 72 hours, with 48 of it drive time. All went well...no mechanical or regulatory issues worth complaining about. The only real problem I can think of is that I was unable to come up with a name for the beast. I'll give the down and dirty details of the trip sometime soon!
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05-01-2018, 07:01 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Glad you had a good trip and made it home without incident.
Was there any issue at all regarding lack of air brake endorsement? That is a topic here that has seen a LOT of discussion.
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05-01-2018, 07:05 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Central MN
Posts: 191
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC RE
Engine: 8.3L
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Congrats on your safe trip!!
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GaryC
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05-01-2018, 09:24 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Brunswick, GA
Posts: 150
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 84
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Wow - thanks for the pics - I would love to go to Alaska some day. Glad you made it safely - please do share more pics of your skoolie adventures!!
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05-04-2018, 02:42 PM
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#19
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Palmer, AK
Posts: 279
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf T Liner MVP 11 window 32’
Engine: CAT 3126E
Rated Cap: 72
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no air brake issue
Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
Glad you had a good trip and made it home without incident.
Was there any issue at all regarding lack of air brake endorsement? That is a topic here that has seen a LOT of discussion.
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No issue at all Steve.
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05-04-2018, 03:13 PM
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#20
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Palmer, AK
Posts: 279
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf T Liner MVP 11 window 32’
Engine: CAT 3126E
Rated Cap: 72
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more detail on trip home here:
http://www.skoolie.net/forums/f11/wi...-fe-22329.html
I started our build thread with this post.
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