Stuck at the top of texas

[Native]

Originally Posted by Catastrophe._

I got help from a town really nearby they are going to help me replace the filter.. thanks tho to all of you for your help!! I appreciate it.

Have you had the replaced yet?


Is that the problem?

[Native]

Originally Posted by Catastrophe._

If you can or cannot I totally understand, there is unfortunately a rainstorm. But I got a version of diesel 911( a cop brought me to a truck stop) and a fuel filter special for like trucks. It’s not the kind for my bus but it’s a LFP815FN kind, hoping I can try that one. Even tho it’s not the specific C7 kind... would that be a bad idea??

That filter is a replacement for the following:


CATERPILLAR 3I1217
CATERPILLAR 8T3910
CATERPILLAR 9Y4417



... none of which are for your engine.

[CHEESE_WAGON]

OP texted me back earlier, I was asleep. They got help replacing the filters, and something similar to Diesel 911. Back on the road and haven't heard anything further, I assume it was a fuel quality problem or a filter problem.

[joeblack5]

It would be nice to quantify fuel quality a bit.. Having run diesel on wvo and wmo in Mercedes powerstrokes and renault diesels it seems that there is no way that pump diesel can be that bad..

I can see gelling at low temperatures.. water if you go by chance the last little bit out of the storage tank. But that would have gone by the gas station water separaters and also the vehicle separater.

Curious what it was that brought them to a halt.

[CHEESE_WAGON]

Originally Posted by joeblack5

It would be nice to quantify fuel quality a bit.. Having run diesel on wvo and wmo in Mercedes powerstrokes and renault diesels it seems that there is no way that pump diesel can be that bad..

I can see gelling at low temperatures.. water if you go by chance the last little bit out of the storage tank. But that would have gone by the gas station water separaters and also the vehicle separater.

Curious what it was that brought them to a halt.

Older highway diesel formulas would form algae if not used quickly enough, I suspect this problem has only taken on a less problematic form with ULSD. Lots of stories of diesel fuel going bad recently due to the severe decrease in travel recently. Even over-the-road trucks aren't using as much because freight is slow.

[joeblack5]

Sure. I have heating oil that is 5 year old without a problem.. then you have anti fungicide ..to keep it for years and years.
Hard for me to imagine that trucker stations would not take care of situation like that. If they normally refill there tanks every week.. and now with covid ..every month..then that fuel is only a month old....

Nice that you helped them out. It is a huge moral help to know that this forum responds and lowers the stress level a bit when you are stuck.

Years ago I was traveling to attend a bus meet in Florida . At my last boondocks the evening before I got stuck in the sand. It was great that ECB and yellow?? Offered to come over and be there to pull me out. Managed by myself with some hand digging but the knowledge that you are not alone and others rooting for you is hartwarming.
Johan

[Native]

That is what makes this site so great!

[CHEESE_WAGON]

Apparently OP is having more trouble. I texted earlier today asking if all was still well, and dozed off for a nap before they replied "No".

No reply since, and calls are going straight to voicemail... I hope OP is safe.

[cadillackid]

I’m not sure what constitutes “bad” fuel but I’ve had it.. possibly mixed with gasoline? Maybe excessive water? Not sure.. I do know that sometimes engines will run on really old fuel and do it ok. Other times you fill up and it runs like rubbish till you fill up again.. not sure how to explain iit other than “bad fuel “

[CHEESE_WAGON]

Certainly sounds like bad fuel, and the first thing I asked was to make sure they hadn't accidentally put gasoline in by mistake. Diesels are pretty tolerant of that to a point as long as you don't fill it up with it. Helps to clean the injectors a bit if done in moderation.

[Native]

Originally Posted by CHEESE_WAGON

Apparently OP is having more trouble. I texted earlier today asking if all was still well, and dozed off for a nap before they replied "No".

No reply since, and calls are going straight to voicemail... I hope OP is safe.

I hope they are just sleeping off the stress of the trip! It sure would be good to hear they made it okay.

[Bus'n it]

Originally Posted by CHEESE_WAGON

Certainly sounds like bad fuel, and the first thing I asked was to make sure they hadn't accidentally put gasoline in by mistake. Diesels are pretty tolerant of that to a point as long as you don't fill it up with it. Helps to clean the injectors a bit if done in moderation.

Cheese, I used to drive OTR as well and remember guys putting in a gallon or two of gasoline in the mix for exactly what you just said. Wondering if that would be a deterrent to todays computer controlled engines. I used to own a KW Aerodyne cabover with a Cummins big cam. This was in '93.

[Shamoke]

Originally Posted by Bus'n it

Cheese, I used to drive OTR as well and remember guys putting in a gallon or two of gasoline in the mix for exactly what you just said. Wondering if that would be a deterrent to todays computer controlled engines. I used to own a KW Aerodyne cabover with a Cummins big cam. This was in '93.

I remember putting in a gallon of unleaded in each 100 gallon tank in the Pete I drove to keep the fuel from gelling up. I would be leery about this practice in a modern engine with all of the computer controls and sensors, not to mention what it would to to the smog control crap they have now.

[CHEESE_WAGON]

Not to mention the different formulation of highway diesel fuel today. Around 2010 the LSD / ULSD became mandatory for highway use.

[cadillackid]

we always mixed in some K1 into our IH scouts to help with gelling.. K1 gels at a LOT lower temperature.. running it straight was bad bcause it doesnt have near the lubricity that #2 diesel does but a 10-25% mix never huirt anything.. that scout put 375k on its little diesel..



-Christopher