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Old 08-18-2017, 01:22 PM   #2561
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This filter talk, got me to thinking on the tractor idea, too. Assuming you are headed to the East side of town, it may serve you well to stop by Lansdowne Moody, or any Tractor place. Lord knows, tractors know dust.
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Old 08-19-2017, 10:53 PM   #2562
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This canister air filter started as 2 cake pans:

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It's on a Cummins powered WC53 project http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/38791554-post809.html
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Old 08-19-2017, 10:59 PM   #2563
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Beautiful job on that!

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Old 08-20-2017, 12:53 AM   #2564
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Damn Guido! Thanks... but after that tease...I had to read the entire build thread. Talk about an amazingly talented builder! Make my attempts look cobby & mighty feeble. That guys skill set is truly impressive.
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Old 08-20-2017, 09:07 AM   #2565
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wow!!! what a cool filter build!!!

TANGO - your skill set is truly impressive!!! you fabricate things in a day most people would give up on or would take a month or more!!

-Christopher
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Old 08-20-2017, 10:18 PM   #2566
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Thanks for the kind words, but I am still overwhelmed by the quality & craftsmanship demonstrated on that project.

More "Baby Steps" --- been having fits finding places to put everything. Like the oil filter. Had to go with a remote filter set up to make space for the motor mounts and a/c bracket but still needed a spot for the actual filter. Thought about tagging it on to the fuel filter palte but didn't like that idea. Then, maybe on the opposite side of the motor, but want to keep that area open for easy CAC piping.

Wound up using two "Mystery Bolts" that are on the rear of the engine block. Still not 100% clear on what they are supposed to be for but, hey...they were in the right place for my plans.


Began with a bracket to hold the filter head...


...then added a pair of legs to bolt up to the block.


And given that these little motors sit cockeyed by about 6-7 degrees, one leg had to be a bit longer to get the filter to sit level.

Will make it easy to access via the doghouse. Now to start on some fuel & oil lines.



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Old 08-21-2017, 07:08 AM   #2567
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great idea on the filter!! (other than the mess to change it.. but looks like you have enough room to slide a pan under it when you change it to not douse your transmission.

are you going to do hard lines or go with steel braided AN style like I did for my trans lines? im a big fan of steel braided lines even though they can be a bit pricey when you need many feet of them, ive used them for years and havent had failure issues as long as i got the connectors on right in the beginning.
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:13 AM   #2568
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Should be pretty easy in this spot to contain any drips while changing. Much better than another possible location that was directly over the exhaust manifold.

Absolutely yes on the braided SS lines. Great stuff. Also much easier when it comes to routing around things. And I have a lot of things crammed in this tiny space to route around.
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:30 AM   #2569
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dont forget A/C lines.. likely a #10 for suction(evap to compressor) and a #8 discharge (compressor to condensor) and a #6 liquid (condensor to evap).. I used rubber lines for those.. (barrier A/C hose) and Burgaclip fittings.. but yeah more pipes to route.. and you thought the electrical was bad.. the plumbing is crazy...
oil-fuel-powered-steering-trans-heat-A/C. yeoow!!
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:46 AM   #2570
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Yeah, I am just beginning to plan all the "other plumbing". And working under the bus is my very least favorite pastime. Just sorting out all the fittings (AN/SAE/Metric/Not Metric) is daunting. Almost up there with electrical, which is all Martian to me. Hell...Chinese would be easy
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:53 AM   #2571
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AN (or # as some say) corresponds to an SAE size.. (thread and tube size)... just another way to say it.. hopefully not too much is metric.. my trans lines were not. and oil lines arent on my motor..

fitting types are the biggest pain.. is it flare, ORB, NPT, etc..

but still this part really has to be somewhat exciting though because now you are working on the meat, the guts, what makes the bus GO!
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:59 AM   #2572
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Yes, it does get me going to think I'm closer to getting going. I just may hire a diesel tech to help speed up this part of the process. I am anxious to start this motor up and begin working out any kinks. As a hard core hot rodder, you know that any complicated build always takes a fair amount of post construction finessing time before it is actually road ready.
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Old 08-21-2017, 10:13 AM   #2573
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"dialing it in" often takes longer than all of the assembly combined (not whole project but for each various major system)...

and then getting it to where you trust your own work to take it on a 1000 mile road trip.. (we are our own worst enemies).. "wonder if I should weld that in another spot".."hmm woweee whats that little vibration...".. "whats that sound!!!"

we will tweak and dial, adjust, check and recheck the bolts that we know are torqued.. over and over..

yet we will go out and buy a brand new car thats had 10 minutes of testing and embark on a cross country adventure....

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Somehow I knew you'd understand and appreciate that part of any build. It is indeed critical to thoroughly check, check and re-check every aspect of the many elements that went into it. And it is disturbingly easy to have overlooked something that could spell total disaster.

Many years ago I built a highly experimental two-stroke motorcycle formula racing engine pretty much from scratch and can recall just how nervous I was on the initial start-up. There were so many things that could either go wrong and blow it up (it was designed to turn 12-13,000 rpm's) or simply prove a radical, hair-brained theory completely wrong and not run at all. The other side of the story is the elation experienced when that little 373cc motor popped to life on the very first kick and ran like a top. And when it went on to consistently destroy competitors on 1,000 to 1,200 cc bikes for the next four+ years, all the blood, sweat, tears, angst and and anxiety were totally worth it.

I can only hope this project turns out to be half as successful and rewarding.
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Old 08-21-2017, 04:38 PM   #2575
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Christopher, you still haven't told us when you are headed to Texas have you?
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Old 08-21-2017, 04:50 PM   #2576
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Christopher,

Come down after I get my new dashboard put in. Right now HF can't hold any air..........

Tango,

Those steel braided likes are AWESOME!!! I had an M35 Deuce with braided lines, what LUXURY and performance! Leave it to Uncle Sam to do strange things.....

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Old 08-21-2017, 05:36 PM   #2577
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I DEF need to get down to texas and soon!

those braided lines are love / hate.. Love em after they are installed... Hate assembling them... Ok its not THAT bad after you get the hang and have the right tools.. and THICK GLOVES.. the Fray is real...

wow I havent kept up on the progress of HF.. I remember reading you were building it a new dash... didnt realize you had it in pieces so much that the air gauge is out.

if I can go to texas before the summer is over it would be another good test of the cooling in RedByrd..

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wow I havent kept up on the progress of HF.. I remember reading you were building it a new dash... didnt realize you had it in pieces so much that the air gauge is out.

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Not only is the air gauge is out they're ALL out!!!!

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Old 08-22-2017, 10:23 AM   #2579
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M --- good call on adding EGT and tranny temp. Never could understand why they were not more common from the factory given how important that info can be.

Caddie --- We will try to save some 100+ weather until you get here so you can check things out. Field testing can be so much fun. Either way, a bunch of us are hoping you can make it down to the Houston area. Bring it!

Me...I am STILL waiting on China to send me my silicone CAC couplers. Meanwhile...I did connect with a chap to machine the custom straight turbo adapter I need to connect my CAC tubing. He had previously made an exhaust fitting for my HX30W that was a perfect fit. Great looking machine work at very reasonable prices. If anyone needs something machined, I can wholeheartedly recommend the Eggman. Happy to pass on his contact info.
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Old 08-22-2017, 10:44 AM   #2580
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I can understand EGT not being standard as most of the busses stock are WAY de-tuned to bneed for worry of EGT.. but with all the AT545s that were out youd thuibnk theyd have all had gauges on them.. the more modern transmissions do cool better but I still like knowing.
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