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08-30-2012, 01:44 PM
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#261
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
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08-30-2012, 03:11 PM
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#262
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
Hey Opus --- I think that may be one I called on. If so it is a 1000 series set up for 4x4 use and what I needed was the 2200MH. Good price though, all the Allies are built tank-tough. Thanks a bunch for the info though.
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08-30-2012, 03:42 PM
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#263
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
I like to come through for people AFTER they spend a fortune. LOL!
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08-30-2012, 08:27 PM
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#264
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,227
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
Hi Bud---do you have a simple way to post the specifics (tech stuff) on your new tranny? I'd be interested in all sorts of stuff like shift speeds up and down, how/when lock-up takes place, what elect requirements, weight etc. etc.--basically any and all engineering. I don't want much do I To me this is way better than a new bus where you have to take the "package" offered. You get to be involved in the engineering and design. As you probably remember, this was what you could do back in the '50's and '60's and into the early '70's. Then it all changed (thank you Japan) and you could only buy a limited number of "packages"--it took most of the fun out of new 4X4 trucks for me. I must admit that I was suprised that Allison is still old school enough to even show an intrest much less help you with the design of your new tranny, that is a stroke of good luck. Jack
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08-30-2012, 10:36 PM
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#265
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
Hey Jack...shoot me a PM with your email addy and I will send you the two print outs I have. Like I said, I was amazed at the level of interest & work the Allison rep put into this. Like you, these days, I'm more accustomed to just a disinterested voice on the phone. Even when you are trying to spend money with them. Definitely old school. Hoorah Allison! And "Made in America" to boot!!!
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08-31-2012, 08:17 AM
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#266
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 801
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Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
Hey Jack...shoot me a PM with your email addy and I will send you the two print outs I have. Like I said, I was amazed at the level of interest & work the Allison rep put into this. Like you, these days, I'm more accustomed to just a disinterested voice on the phone. Even when you are trying to spend money with them. Definitely old school. Hoorah Allison! And "Made in America" to boot!!!
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Amen to that !!.....
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09-01-2012, 04:50 PM
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#267
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
The 350 Chevy went Bye-Bye today --- It took 2-1/2 hours for my friend and his buddies to yank the engine & tranny this morning. Not too shabby. Now I have a hole that I am really hoping will be big enough to stuff the Cummins & Allison into. Will take a couple of pix tomorrow. And if anyone is shopping for an original '46 1.5 ton 4-speed...I will put a note in the classifieds here with the details. Pulled the top plate and the gears look like new. Man, they built'em well back then.
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09-01-2012, 08:10 PM
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#268
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,227
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
Well, there is no backing out now Sure would be fun to build our SKOOLIES side by side. I think the house next door is about to go on the market-----. I recall that I had pangs (of something) when my 327/400 combo sold and the bus no longer moved under its own power, but that first stolen cruise around the block made it all worth the trouble.
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09-01-2012, 11:50 PM
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#269
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Oregon/Philippines
Posts: 1,660
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Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
reminds me i am about done putting the 400 in my 49 chevy after blowing up another turbo 350...
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09-02-2012, 12:12 AM
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#270
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
Hey Jack...Yeah...Roger the "no motor pangs". Kinda scary to realize you really are committed ain't it. Sorta like your first parachute jump...no going back now!
'49 --- sorry bout that tranny. Any idea what ate it? Too much horsepower?
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09-02-2012, 12:29 AM
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#271
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Oregon/Philippines
Posts: 1,660
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Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
havent pulled it down.. most likely forward clutch pack... After excessive foot stomping it now slips.. It only had around 20 miles on it at most...
they are quite easy to rebuild.
Best one is the 480le, but they cost up to 2K for the parts for one you r gonna abuse..
Allisons also easy to build, but some parts are hard to get out here in the boonies...
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09-02-2012, 06:48 PM
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#272
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
Howdy All --- Hope everyone is having a great Labor Day weekend and getting caught up on bus stuff. Me...I pulled the Chevy 350 out on Saturday,then spent most of today cutting away multiple remnants of old engine mounts and tranny cross braces. Mmmmm...I love the smell of cutting disks in the morning. Also made a little headway on the entry door & body spacers. Here's a couple of pix...
Remeasured and it's still gonna be tight in there. Will likely lose some of the firewall and have to build a small doghouse, but I expected that. Won't really know till I have the engine & trans here.
This was a nail-biter. Cutting the door frame to fit the new locking latch & deadbolt. Next it goes to the "skinner".
And the new body spacers just might work! They are the galvanized doolollies with the writing positioned half an inch below the floor. They tie the floor to the outer skin right at the torpedo belt.
Have a great holiday...Onward!
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09-02-2012, 08:18 PM
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#273
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,227
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
Hey Tango, I see two key holes---one for the latch and one for the dead bolt? How does it work?
Of course the installation is beautiful.
Can't wait to hear how engine and trans stuff fits. It looks like it's going to be 10 # of s--- in a 2 # sack. Seriously though, I have every confidence that you will do a stellar job. Enjoy the holiday (I've labored on most Labor Days, How about you?). Jack
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09-02-2012, 08:59 PM
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#274
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,227
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
Tango and '49, I ran across a video that will probably explain '49's blown 350 tranny. Tango, I have your PM so I'll send it to you and hope that '49 will PM me so I can send it to him also. It is an amaising Hillbilly sleeper that would rip out a 350 TH---probably '49"s truck
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09-02-2012, 10:18 PM
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#275
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Oregon/Philippines
Posts: 1,660
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Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
49 chevy is a fleetline my dad bought for me in high school... slightly modified now some 49 yrs later. email is chev49@yahoo ... i get a billion spam a day at that email address...
I do have a 49 suburban on a 66 swb pu frame for sale..just the body and frame...don't have time to redo it as will be working on the alabama farm pretty soon, as its been neglected for around 25 yrs...
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09-02-2012, 10:39 PM
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#276
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
Howdy All --- Jack...the latch is an "RV Style" from PPL Motorhomes here in Houston. It has a single key that can lock both the latch and/or the deadbolt. It was just a bit tricky cutting through the 1-1/4 framing. A link is below. I hope to drop the frame off this week to get skinned properly. And yep...I've worked more "Holidays" than I haven't over the last 40 years. But hey, most I charged triple time for! Tomorrow I'll be chopping out the last remaining bits of several crossmembers that were stacked up. And I need to find some longer gloves. My forearms itch like crazy from all the hot metal and grit.
And I think the "Hillbilly" vid wound up in my spam filter but I'd love to see it.
http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/r...door-locks.htm
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09-03-2012, 05:09 AM
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#277
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MNT CITY TN
Posts: 5,158
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Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
Tango,pickup a pair of "arm socks" at the welding store about $15 they work great and keep weld splatter from melting arm hair
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09-03-2012, 07:44 AM
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#278
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 801
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Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
Quote:
Originally Posted by bansil
Tango,pickup a pair of "arm socks" at the welding store about $15 they work great and keep weld splatter from melting arm hair
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Ditto ....... What bansil said.......
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09-03-2012, 08:42 AM
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#279
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Oregon/Philippines
Posts: 1,660
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Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
After one has welded for 46 yrs they don't need long gloves...
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Short ones only occasionally.
Arms just start to rust with all the imbedded steel...
I only use short gloves...
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09-04-2012, 11:35 PM
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#280
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
The rust must act like insulation if you let enough of it build up!
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