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Old 01-31-2018, 09:01 PM   #3021
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Yeah, because "Duck" is a brand

In the UK we call vacuum cleaners, "Hoovers", for the same reason.

People here look at me funny when I say it!
I hear Lucas made vacuum cleaners also, it was the only product they made that didn't suck.
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Old 02-01-2018, 02:04 PM   #3022
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FINALLY!!! --- I at least got a couple of the pieces back from the sheetmetal shop. Still waiting (for a couple of months now) for the pieces to the doghouse but then it is a lot trickier than the following two.


First...my battery box. All 3/16th steel. It will have to go under one of my entry steps. More nail biting cutting and welding this sucker.


This is the bottom pan for my overhead gauge console.


And here is a test fit of the console face. Still a lot to do but at least I now have some of the pieces to work with.



ONWARD!
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Old 02-01-2018, 04:58 PM   #3023
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Just caught up to you again.
I am working at an Allison shop for a few days.
If you will let me know exactly what tranny you have I can get them to pull the books and tell me exactly what fittings you need.
So far they have been cool and either know or can hit the paperback or computer without even having to hunt.
Will be there tomorrow and Monday and waiting on a phone call for Saturday.
A high end Detroit and Allison shop with NO heat in a metal building has unhappy mechanics and I am there building there gas line to the heaters and any break I get I am looking at all the trannies they have and asking what happened to that one and the Detroit side I am doing the same.
Today they had two Mercedes motors out.
One was a school bus and one was a western star truck.
The school bus they don't know until they tear into it the western star gave up at 750,000 miles and only needs new bushings on everything and I mean piston rod,roll pin crank shaft. cause they use bronze.
Gonna take my tablet with me tomorrow for some motor and tranny pics.
Let me know what you have TANGO and I Should be able to answer through them face to face.
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Old 02-01-2018, 06:07 PM   #3024
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Nice!!! Yeah cold winter and small parts with cold hands don’t go well together !!!!!

I wish you’d get a navistar shop so o could get that darned ticket open to change my trans type from AT to MD in my ECM
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Old 02-02-2018, 10:22 AM   #3025
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Overhead gauge panel will be nice. Of note, check with the supplier of your exhaust gas temperature gauge, many of them have a fixed length (calibrated resistance) lead between the probe and gauge, which might back a challenge to reach from the turbo to the gauge panel.
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Old 02-02-2018, 10:23 AM   #3026
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Thanks Guido...will definitely have to look into that.
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Old 02-04-2018, 07:23 PM   #3027
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Found a couple of EGT gauges that can be had with either a 6' or 12' cable that is matched to the gauge. Will probably need the 12'

Began cutting up my entry stairs today so I can install the box for my starter battery there. No pix...had to run to the local bar for the annual Duck Race they always have on Super Bowl Sunday. My duck did not win...awwwwww.
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Old 02-05-2018, 09:16 PM   #3028
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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!! - I am SO tired of trying to weld the garbage metal on so many parts of this bus! The steel used for civilian purposes during WWII is absolute garbage. So full of impurities that repairs via welding are a nightmare. Spent the day today trying to attach the new battery box. But most of that time went to patching "blowouts". I have successfully welded 26 gauge, galvanized stucco lath onto a 1/4" steel beam with no problems...but this stuff!? Nothing seems to work. I have dialed my Miller down to where I can hardly get a spark and it STILL blows out.

No pix today...I was may too frustrated. Maybe manana.
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Old 02-05-2018, 09:17 PM   #3029
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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!! - I am SO tired of trying to weld the garbage metal on so many parts of this bus! The steel used for civilian purposes during WWII is absolute garbage. So full of impurities that repairs via welding are a nightmare. Spent the day today trying to attach the new battery box. But most of that time went to patching "blowouts". I have successfully welded 26 gauge, galvanized stucco lath onto a 1/4" steel beam with no problems...but this stuff!? Nothing seems to work. I have dialed my Miller down to where I can hardly get a spark and it STILL blows out.

No pix today...I was way too frustrated. Maybe manana.
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Old 02-05-2018, 10:02 PM   #3030
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You must be really mad, you posted it twice.
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:10 PM   #3031
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Welding junky steel is no fun. When you have access to the back of the panel, try a copper backing plate, it can help with the blow through.
Lots of different styles, https://www.eastwood.com/4-in-magnet...QaAnQmEALw_wcB
https://www.eastwood.com/welders-hel...saAuVTEALw_wcB

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Old 02-06-2018, 09:16 AM   #3032
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Hmmmm...no idea why that came up 2x (?) but yeah...mad is one word for how I feel about working with junk metal. Of course, I have to remind myself that at the time, it was a good thing. We used all the "good stuff" to win WWII.

Thanks Guido. I have a set of welding spoons I use regularly but as noted...this steel has so many impurities it still blows out anyway. But it is only horrible in the Wayne parts of the bus (from the cowl back). The Chevy metal is much better. Not great, but a whole lot easier to deal with.
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Old 02-06-2018, 10:06 PM   #3033
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Yet another day of dealing with pot metal --- Ok...the battery box is in. After WAY too many hours dedicated to filling in blowouts everywhere I tried to weld something.

Oy!


Hole cut. The easy part.


Battery box positioned and tacked in place.


Welded in with the "lid" up.


Fully welded with the lid down.

Hmmm...for some reason the pix make it look a lot easier than the actual work was.



ONWARD!
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Old 02-06-2018, 11:12 PM   #3034
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Pretty slick there. However with all that work, why did you not make it easier to use and have a side access box? With the diamond plate lid it could have been a good "kick panel" too. Just a thought.
Looking great and bad metal is never fun to work with. Keep up the good work.
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Old 02-07-2018, 08:10 AM   #3035
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Now I remember how I got tricked into buying a bus----the pictures made it look so simple!
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Yeah, its all so easy looking till you try to do any of it!
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Old 02-07-2018, 09:58 AM   #3037
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Good thing I am not a Catholic. I'd be saying Hail Mary's for the next month for all the swearing involved.
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Old 02-07-2018, 11:50 AM   #3038
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wow!! i never knew the old metal was that bad.. I keep hearing peoiple talk about the new metals on vehicles being crap to weld to.. just always thought the good-old stuff was best,.. but you are right.. wartime metal was whatever was leftover from military applications.. seems a lot of stuff was built "just to get by till the war was over".. and here some of it has survived all these years...
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Old 02-07-2018, 11:57 AM   #3039
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Yeah...it is pretty awful stuff. But in reality...I seriously doubt they ever intended for this bus to still be on the road 72 years later.
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Yeah...it is pretty awful stuff. But in reality...I seriously doubt they ever intended for this bus to still be on the road 72 years later.
sure seems like everything made in the war was really just designed to last till the war was over.. and of course the post-war economy sure showed that to be true as some of the best things ever built in this country were done in the 20 years post WW2
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