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Old 03-09-2018, 11:34 PM   #3141
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I have to say, Christopher, that I think either is a valid choice for all sorts of reasons.

My only reason for posting here is to try to help people make decisions based on accurate information rather than vague assertions.
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Old 03-10-2018, 09:10 AM   #3142
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Just as with buildouts, roof raises, insulation and all the rest...the "right" choice depends on what each individual has planned for as use. What is perfect for me and my use will very likely suck for someone else. That's what makes building a Skoolie so great...you can make it any way you want to fit your own needs and wishes.

There is no one-size-fits-all solution to any of the building/outfitting options.
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Old 03-10-2018, 11:35 AM   #3143
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Well said Tango and it is nice to see differing points of view expressed without rancor. Jack
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Just a friendly reminder of why we are all here Jack.

Meanwhile...think Scoopy Doo...

While waiting on my hydraulic fitting guru, I decided to get out my grinder and play. Cut a hole in the side of the bus...


Just a little one...then...


...added a small scoop to help direct air over the tranny cooler. Had to go all the way to England to find a little one that fit my needs. Will add a small piece of SS screen to slow down rocks and such.



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Just curious.......was that flip-down step standard equipment even back in the 1940s, or did you add it?
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That one came with the bus and I'm guessing it is probably original. The exact same steps are still available and I bought two more to add. Very stout little suckers.
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Howdy All --- More tidbits. Put some "Acid Proof" paint inside my battery box and did some minor plumbing.


Note that it clearly states "For Aerospace Use Only". If I get called on it I'll just let them know my travel plans include both me and my bus being taken by aliens.


Got this guy mounted. Note that there is no place for a gravity fill. I decided to deal with that issue differently this time. Always made a mess and got bugs and/or crud in my water that way so I did something different on the inside...


...instead of poring water into a hole on the outside, I'm going with a splitter that will allow me to divert fill water directly into the tank on the inside. I am hoping that copious amounts of Teflon tape will head off any leaks.



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Did you ever read the directions on "Aircraft Stripper", fine print will always tell you "not to be used on aircraft."
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Just as with buildouts, roof raises, insulation and all the rest...the "right" choice depends on what each individual has planned for as use. What is perfect for me and my use will very likely suck for someone else. That's what makes building a Skoolie so great...you can make it any way you want to fit your own needs and wishes.

There is no one-size-fits-all solution to any of the building/outfitting options.

totally Agreed!.. theres people here that Live in their bus, use them as weekend cruisers or still have all the seats and just roadtrip.. so yes I agree the amount and intended use definitely helps to determine how to outfit your bus!
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Did you ever read the directions on "Aircraft Stripper", fine print will always tell you "not to be used on aircraft."

Just like that grey duct tape.. the WORST thing to use on your HVAC ducts is duct-tape..
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Yeah...when looking back on your build...I hope we can all feel like Sinatra...for better or worse...

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Just for the record...

I have put three coats (the recommended amount) of the acid proof aerospace paint inside my new battery box...and it takes a loooonnng time to dry/cure. It is about the consistency of honey and it looks like asphalt is the main ingredient. Still plan on adding an ABS liner to try and avoid shorts. It will house a group 34 AGM batt laying on its' side.
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" I am hoping that copious amounts of Teflon tape will head off any leaks."

There is always JB weld...
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Just for the record...

I have put three coats (the recommended amount) of the acid proof aerospace paint inside my new battery box...and it takes a loooonnng time to dry/cure. It is about the consistency of honey and it looks like asphalt is the main ingredient. Still plan on adding an ABS liner to try and avoid shorts. It will house a group 34 AGM batt laying on its' side.
I didn't know you could lay an AGM down on its side! That's cool.
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Old 03-19-2018, 05:36 AM   #3155
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I was always told an AGM could be placed on its side in normal comnditions, but not sure what happens if an AGM over-charges and does have to vent, does the substance turn to liquid inside and vent liquid rather than gasses if the battery is on its side? I didnt look at mine to see if there is say one corner where the pressure-relief vent would occur?
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Good question Christopher --- One to which I do not know the answer. All I inquired about was the side laying position and the maker said "absolutely" with no caveats. Maybe I need to dig deeper.
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I've had one agm battery fail (shorted cell) that would over charge and "boil". As for venting, the battery just made a hissing noise but because there is no liquid in the battery, it doesn't leak. Just vents pressure.

That was a red top optima.

And yes.. AGMs can be mounted in any direction because they have no liquid in them.. cant spill/leak.
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Interesting Tahoe. I had been looking at the Optimas but then ran across a whole bunch of really bad recent reviews. Seems they moved their manufacturing to Mexico a few years ago and have had nothing but major problems ever since. Prior to that they were very highly rated.

Will the bean counters ever learn? Saving a buck apiece using cheap labor doesn't mean much if everyone totally quits buying your products.
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Interesting Tahoe. I had been looking at the Optimas but then ran across a whole bunch of really bad recent reviews. Seems they moved their manufacturing to Mexico a few years ago and have had nothing but major problems ever since. Prior to that they were very highly rated.

Will the bean counters ever learn? Saving a buck apiece using cheap labor doesn't mean much if everyone totally quits buying your products.
Yup... Optima is manufactured by Johnson Controls and yeah.. they have gone down hill.

If you want top notch AGM quality... go with XS Power. They are pricey... but I run 1 in my Tahoe with a big stereo... 1 XS Power D3100. 8 years and still going strong. I researched quite a bit prior to buying one.. . found people getting 15-20 years out of them consistently (as long as they had been maintained well. I use a smart charger on mine through the winter wired in with the block heater.. top it off every few months the rest of the year)

https://4xspower.com/shop/product-category/12v-agm/

Still made in the USA. This single D3100 cranks my 4bt @ 5F. A pair of them could jump start a planet. Lol
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im using an interstate.. 'excide' i think its called, AGM battery.. im almost 2 years in and so far no issues..(they run the ionverter and equipment in my DEV bus) i charge them with my alternator which everyone says dont do.. and they still give me just as much juice as they did whan I got them..
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