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Old 08-27-2018, 05:40 PM   #3481
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Thanks Guido --- Just went and looked at commercial scaffolding today. Can rent a nifty wheeled set up for 28 days for a couple of hundred bucks. At first I thought I'd stack all the pieces on the roof of my 4Runner...then I saw the weight. 1080 pounds!


Maybe not.



First need to find someone with a trailer...then a couple of spare hands to assemble and erect the damned thing. So I just may take you up on it pardner.
I wasn't sure what you wanted to invest in scaffolding to buy or rent. I was looking at a rolling scaffold from HF for only $200. Check it out and see if it's heavy duty enough for your use.


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You are going to laugh tango but scaffolding for that job won't likely make it any easier of a reach on the roof.
I had a dream that saw your bus laid over on an airbag thingy and then the work you needed to do was right in front of you. Same for decking work.

Just lay it over easy and hold it with a chainfall for adjusting it and then pulling back upright.
Thank God for good smoke, look at all the trouble I saved you and Guido...


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Old 08-27-2018, 09:15 PM   #3483
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Marc --- I could not find the size I need through Harbor or Northern or any of the typical retail outfits (need 10" wide x 10' tall).
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Old 08-28-2018, 08:05 PM   #3484
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Does this primer make my butt look big?



Threw a little self etching primer on the rear today. Had to first remove a fair amount of surface rust that had accumulated over the past few days, but this should keep it happy until the real paint is ready to go on. Unlike conventional primers, this does not attract and hold moisture and has a rust inhibitor. All the white spots are where I found either Bondo or body lead.






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Old 08-28-2018, 08:33 PM   #3485
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You are going to laugh tango but scaffolding for that job won't likely make it any easier of a reach on the roof.
I had a dream that saw your bus laid over on an airbag thingy and then the work you needed to do was right in front of you. Same for decking work.

Just lay it over easy and hold it with a chainfall for adjusting it and then pulling back upright.
Thank God for good smoke, look at all the trouble I saved you and Guido...


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$8 worth of tubing and you can make a rotisserie.

Tango, aren't the HF and Northern scaffolds stackable? Though they are still not as long as you need
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Part of the problem is that I need an open span of about 9-10 feet so I can roll it the length of the bus. Most of what I have seen has cross supports that won't let you "drive through". Even the scaffold company (a big one) had to resort to some specialized gear to clear everything.


And after watching some of the custom car builder TV shows...I'd kill to have a rotisserie for this beast! Well...maybe not. Little late now.
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Part of the problem is that I need an open span of about 9-10 feet so I can roll it the length of the bus. Most of what I have seen has cross supports that won't let you "drive through". Even the scaffold company (a big one) had to resort to some specialized gear to clear everything.


And after watching some of the custom car builder TV shows...I'd kill to have a rotisserie for this beast! Well...maybe not. Little late now.

I have a simple idea for your roof problem...


This is how I built some shelving in my shop but in theory, it would work well for you.


I see you've got some exposed roof support beams in your shop over your bus. Drop some short stubs vertically from the beams... tie them together at the bottom.... then a couple 2x4s ran between each set... basically a hanging scaffold. Leave it open so you can sand the top.. do the body work... and spray it all from overhead.


Wont take much to hold your body weight and could be done very cheaply. You could literally set it up so you could just lay down and work without ever putting any weight on the roof of the bus.


Anyways... Keep it up.
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Old 08-29-2018, 08:22 AM   #3488
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Thanks Tahoe --- I had considered that early on but made the mistake of checking with the building owner who nixed the idea for whatever reason(?). C'mon...I'm a little guy. I'm not gonna bring the roof down!
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Lol... yeah your weight wouldn't hurt anything... and it wouldn't need to be permanent.


I've got nearly 500 lbs hanging on a shelving system that is mounted this way from trusses set 8' apart. I think you'll be just fine. Lol


Just use 3 or so screws on each vertical where it attaches to the beams up top (unless they are steel.. cant tell in the pic). Then when you are done, take it back down.
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How about a block and tackle and chest rig harness




I promise I wont let go of the rope.
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You're a chopper pilot...maybe a big ass drone!?
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Ok Tango, Tahoe 's idea is a good one, a hanging scaffold.
Looking at your shop pic, you could use wire rope slings or even webbed slings over and around those trusses to drop to the level you need.
There is room to go over the beams and under the insulation up there so as not to damage anything the owner might not like. maybe 4-6 slings dropped on the vertical, say 3 down each side of the bus. Slings with an eye on each end would be the cat's ass and let you build a strong, steady platform.
Pipe or wood down the sides at the bottom of the sling would allow for fastening cross pieces to build the platform on. Just build as much as you need to work safely and not drop anything.
Other than that, can you roll the bus outside for room to build some scaffold to get at your work? Your shop is kind of narrow but outside if there is room gives more options.
Can't let this beat you, can we? Drives me crazy that I can't be there to help you, and keeps me awake at night this engineering, lol.


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Yeah..hanging something was my very first thought, but like I said, the building owner (who is an old friend of my shop partner) nixed that so I am going to respect his call. The scaffolding will work great. The only issue right now is locating a trailer to haul it here with. Chatting one sucker...er, buddy today.
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Old 08-30-2018, 10:23 AM   #3494
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Get some 2x4's and just build you a 10-12' walkway.
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I've been wondering why I didn't remember having the same problem with my bus-----but then it occurred it was because I cut that section out!?! Jack

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You have a welding machine and fabrication skill.
2" angle some casters and wallk board fabbed in house is more time consuming but cheaper then a scaffold rental and someone to help you get it to and from.
Then repurpose the angle and casters when your done.
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Don't need anymore angle iron...and...I just lined up a helper with a trailer. I'd probably spend $200 bucks to construct something anyway. And with 28 days on the basic rental, I will be able to get all the seams sealed, apply some rust converter and lay on some paint.



Today...Minor Putzing with rattle cans--- I decided my wheels were just too boring...



...as you can plainly see here.


They need a little something.



So I grabbed some cardboard and my calipers...



Cut out a mask (way easier than taping)...



...sprayed on a white base...



...then added a little color.


Stray tuned for the next steps.






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Pinstripes........
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You got it. Now if only I could find some whitewalls...
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The saga continues --- More wheel work today...



Here is one taped off and ready for a coat of black.



Lay on some black, peel off the tape and...waalaah!


Still have one more wheel to do but I won't bore you with more pix. You get the idea. Right?


To be perfectly honest, I 'd love to have done all red rims. I love them on older vehicles. But...I'd have to pull them all. And at about 160 pounds each...meh...maybe just a stripe









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