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Old 09-27-2011, 11:18 AM   #61
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Well, after being out of town for nearly a month I'm finally back to work on the Shorty. Spent days & days just welding up holes everywhere that I won't be needing. Made a little more progress on the new door & frame and cut the "smoke stack" from the wood burning stove out of the roof. Also got the front & rear bumpers off. Man...bolts that haven't been touched in 65 years are a bear! Spent an hour on two of them then resorted to a "universal, SAE/Metric nut & bolt remover"...aka; grinder & cut-off wheel.

Still trying to find the right tranny & rear end to make highway speeds, but hope to make some progress there soon.

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Old 09-27-2011, 07:18 PM   #62
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Thanks for the info Tango! My buyer was going to come pick it up himself, but instead ended up hiring a transport - (MSpringer from Stovebolt) and it just may end up on the "Shipping wars" TV show. Glad to here your back to work on your project. BTW no bumper available from me.
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Old 09-28-2011, 10:41 AM   #63
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Hey Lars --- Glad you got the transport worked out. It can be a nightmare. And now that the '40 is sold, I hope to see you get started on your Shorty. And speaking of bumpers...I just found a clean '46 front that is on its' way to mount onto the new rear deck I'm constructing...and...if anyone is looking for an original wrap-a-round rear to fit onto a Wayne bus body, I have one. It's is in very good shape with just a couple of small wrinkles along the bottom edge. Will post it on the "parts" page.
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Old 10-09-2011, 06:16 PM   #64
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Howdy All --- still in the "deconstruction" stage and looking forward to the day when I can actually begin building something. Been pulling all the rub rails as well as a "skin-job" that had been screwed on over the lower skirt. No big surprises there, just the expected wrinkles and bondo. What did surprise me a bit was the fact that Wayne did not put any paint at all under the rub rails. Nothing there but bare metal. Obviously attached the rails before painting, but I would have thought at least a little primer.

I plan on cutting off all the side sheet metal underneath the upper rail and replacing it all the way down. I will weld a one piece sheet directly to the ribs instead of the hundreds of screws. If it ever needs bodywork again, cutting and replacing a section will be far easier than what it would take to remove the panels. You almost have to take the whole bus apart to fix or replace any of them. Thinking about applying some textured/ribbed stainless down the middle of each side, but waiting on the sample (and price) before I decide. (Think Ford Tri-Motor)

Colors??? Will likely stay with the traditional black fenders do the body in the "Medium Cream" from '46 along with some accent color...maybe burgundy? Although I did see an Art Deco truck somewhere that had a really dark burgundy on the fenders that looked great, but then,that might be a bit too stylish for an old foggie like me. We'll see.

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Old 10-10-2011, 03:21 PM   #65
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Making a little headway inside & out. Pulled the drivers window panel out and have been removing the old sound/insulation padding inside the skin. Basically thick tar paper and a mess to clean up. Scrape first, then sand or it will plug up 40 grit.

BTW...has anyone here ever seen a windshield wiper set up like this? There is a single motor (seen dangling at the lower left corner of the windshield) that runs a continuous flexible screw all the way across to operate both wipers. Turns one way then the other to make them go back & forth. A new one on me...how about you?
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Old 10-10-2011, 06:39 PM   #66
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Can't get a good view of wiper, but it kinda looks like the ones used on British cars, like, forever.They are quite rebuildable if anything goes wrong. Are the wipers connected by what looks like steel brake lines? It all comes apart quite nicely. Good idea to grease those cables inside of the tubes.
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Old 10-11-2011, 12:01 AM   #67
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Hey Somewhere...ya, the screw cable thing runs inside a metal tube. Thanks for the feedback, they were new to me. They work but are not very impressive and I doubt they are original. The Wayne cab looks like it might have had top mounted wipers at one time, but who knows. Will probably go with top mounts and separate motors (electric, not vac). Anybody else here used aftermarket wipers that they are happy with?

Here is a little better pic of this system...
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That definitely looks British, motor probably says Lucas on it somewhere. They were never impressive, but worked well. The best thing about them is you can space the wipers wherever you want by changing the tube length. Could probably be mounted as an overhead. Later models had two speed motors and were stronger. As far a I know all MG's had them, and I think Jaguar.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:28 AM   #69
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Thanks Somewhere...good to know. Just might look into moving an updated version overhead.
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:56 AM   #70
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Here is a stainless sheet that I am thinking about using down each side of the bus between the upper & lower rub rails. The pattern is raised but not all that large. More like what you'd see on a '57 Chevy Bel-Air rear fender than corrugated roofing or a Ford Tri-Motor. Also, it can be painted and then the raised elements sanded clean/polished for a really interesting look.

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Old 10-19-2011, 12:22 PM   #71
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Howdy all --- not much break in the drought here but at least we are enjoying some cooler weather. Been removing the upper & lower rub rails in preparation for the next phase. I have decided it will be better, faster, cheaper to simply replace all the sheet metal down both sides rather than doing a lot of patching & straightening. The original metal is all screwed in place but I am going to just cut it out then weld the new sheet metal directly to the framing. Still can't believe that Wayne put the rub rails on with no paint or primer under them at all. Amazingly, there was no rust through anywhere under them, just tons of surface oxidation.

And I am really wishing I had a compressor at my work site. An air wrench would have made short work of the 120 or so quarter inch, slot-head screws that I wound up having to drill out to remove the rails. Tightening them till they snapped would have been much easier & faster than drilling all those suckers.

Also beginning to lay out/plan the interior and underbelly. Just picked up a 44 gallon aluminum fuel tank off of Epay to replace the dinky 18 gallon original unit. Hard to believe they used the same tank for this bus as they put in many of the pickups. If I can coax the hoped for minimum of 25 mpg from the little Cummins diesel I am building, that will give me an 1100 mile range as opposed to the current 102-mile range the 350 Chevy provides from the 18 gallon tank.

Here's a couple of shots of the rub rails (...or as some call them...the "Torpedo Belt")...


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keep us posted I think that will look good when its done!
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Old 10-22-2011, 09:15 AM   #73
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Thanks ptooti --- I have pulled all the rub rails and the wheel well covers and will be getting them media blasted here shortly. A good coat of rust preventing primer and some proper paint should make them last another century or so. Once the outer sheet metal down each side has been replaced, the rest of the body will get blasted as well, then some minor straightening here and there.

Meanwhile, I just received the fuel tank I got off Epay. It took 3 months of monitoring the postings and checking available sizes but this one is an absolutely perfect fit and in outstanding condition, complete with float & sending unit. I priced new custom builts at about $700 bucks plus shipping. Got this one for $125 + 60 bucks shipping so I am a happy camper. Now all that leaves to find are the fresh and black water tanks, toilet, propane tank, cook top, fridge, microwave, water heater, sink, pex piping & fittings, gen set, jacknife sofa, flooring, new turbo & exhaust manifold, drapes, headliner material, inverter, electrical panels, wiring, batteries, isolater, TV, antennae, radio, new gauges, new turn signals, shower surround, new tires, new brakes, new exhaust system.............well, you know the rest.
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The fun continues --- I have now removed all of the body spacers along the outer edge of the floor. Only one survived. They are the "C" channels that tie the outer skin to the floor and were held in place with large, slot-head screws that go through and also attach the lower rub rails. And since they close off the space under the windows, they have four holes that were meant to provide drainage for the water that runs down into that cavity. Bad news is, they weren't even painted and had completely rusted away in most cases. Guess the engineers didn't count on the rest of the bus still being around 65 years later.

I am making replacements out of slightly heavier Galvalune and once installed, will add a layer or two of fiberglass to try and slow the oxidation since there is really no way to seal the windows well enough to keep water out. The drain holes have to stay. Here's a few pix...


The spacers fit in between each rib at the floor level and tie the outer skin & lower rub rails to the floor & chassis.


The only survivor. I need six like this and two that are longer. Without the rust.


This was about as good as they got except for the one above. Getting to all those 1/4 inch, slot-head screws was a bear and every one had to be cut with a high speed grinder...from underneath...with dirt, rust and hot metal falling down into my face or burning holes in my work clothes...

It reminded me of being in the Navy. "It's not just a job...it's an adventure!"
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I hope you're current on your tetanus shot!
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Old 11-08-2011, 02:04 PM   #76
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Ya...Roger the Tetanus Dan. Makes me glad I got that booster in 1958. Actually, the rust on this old gal isn't all that bad. If the dumb a**es at Wayne had just made a tiny effort to stall the oxidation in these very predictable problem areas, she would be dang near rust free.

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where did u get the sheet metal at ???that would be nice for window pannels



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Howdy Fireman --- There are a couple of sources here in Houston. Don't recall the names off the top of my head but I just Googled for local suppliers of "Galvalume" & "PaintGrip" and found'em. Got one name from the local bulk steel supplier (Triple S). Since they don't carry it they were willing to share the source. Both are ready to accept paint or primer and available in several gauges. If you are in the area I can look them up...if you are elsewhere, try the same routine for your area. Good luck and just let me know if you need a Houston source.
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Thanks but i live in GA,,but i got a sister who lives in huston ''
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Ya...Roger the Tetanus Dan. Makes me glad I got that booster in 1958.
Ha...sweet! Sounds like me.
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