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05-20-2015, 02:04 PM
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#961
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Thanks all for the feedback --- Especially those of you who have "been there, done that". The humidity was one of my biggest concerns and there seems to be total agreement that where the sawdust is concerned...drier is better than wetter. I may have to reconsider where said potty will be located, but with so little space to build in it could get tricky. If I could build one light enough to move about conveniently, maybe I could get by with removing it when the space is used as a shower, letting the space dry a bit and putting it back.
My question about venting came from the fact that most factory built composting toilets seem to have their own small fan & vent system built in and wondering if it was really necessary. The bath itself will have a high mounted wall vent & fan to help reduce the interior humidity from the shower. From what I'm hearing/reading, that should be adequate.
Need to get out my grid paper and play "what if" again.
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05-20-2015, 02:27 PM
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#962
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Currently in Appalachia.
Posts: 148
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A simple, albeit not glamorous combo is to build a sturdy 'shelf' and hinged frame (I'm thinking 2x4ish at the wall with a hinge, that is 5 gallon bucket high, and has a toilet seat attached, with hinged front legs that fold down like a card table. the bucket frame (with seat which can be flipped up against the wall during showers when you remove the bucket. You could get fancier and make a recessed closet to hide it in the 'wet wall' too.
You could even build a bucket shelf and sawdust container into that brilliant door idea of yours. If the toilet/5gal bucket is not a permanent fixture, you can make that fancy door a full quarter circle and as big as your shower box.
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05-25-2015, 10:53 PM
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#963
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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More Minor Movement --- Happy Memorial day to all! What a great time to get a little work done. I managed to fab & fit the brackets I needed to mount my new floorboard & doghouse. Also started on the new dash/firewall. Thanks to the engine sitting so far back, my new firewall is where the original dash was located.
This is the raw metal for the firewall/dash. 14 ga. steel...just a trial fit.
Here it is with some angle added that will attach to the rest of the unit.
And here are the angle iron pieces that I had to fab to attach everything else to (the black material around the edge of the opening).
The floor & doghouse are gonna be a bear to fab as they absolutely MUST seal up tight all around to keep out all the stuff that is never supposed to get inside (exhaust, rain, mud, birds, wombats, whatever...)
Meanwhile...
Onward!
PS...just looked out my door and there is nearly four feet of water over the road. Been a really wet year so far.
Hey Kalifornia...bring buckets!
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05-26-2015, 09:53 AM
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#964
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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We use sawdust in a bag, in a bucket. There really is no odor at all. I've read where more and more folks are using them for their "homesteads" as well.
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05-26-2015, 11:56 AM
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#965
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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At the risk of asking for gorey details...what about toilet paper? Does it go "into the mix" as well? Is "RV Tissue" better suited to quickly break down?
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05-26-2015, 12:40 PM
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#966
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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In the mix...it adds color.
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05-26-2015, 01:24 PM
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#967
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MNT CITY TN
Posts: 5,158
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Have fun! fire walls and tranny humps are a bear, especially if you make them removable
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Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.
George S. Patton
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05-26-2015, 02:35 PM
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#968
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Roger that Bansil --- This has been a head scratcher but I think I finally have it more or less figgered out. But to complicate things even more...I have to also build a recess into the dash/firewall next to the doghouse for my pedals that I can also squeeze the new steering into. And right now, I'm not even sure whether the Isuzu NPR steering box & column I have will fit. Oh well...that's what cutting torches and mig welders are for, right?
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05-26-2015, 10:40 PM
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#969
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Snowflake, Arizona
Posts: 343
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American Rear Engine
Engine: C-8.3-300 Cummins MD3060
Rated Cap: 40 Prisoners
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What no plasma cutter? Boy are doing it old school.
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05-27-2015, 09:03 AM
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#970
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Plasma cutter?!...oh Lordy...what are these youngsters coming to?
In my day, all we needed was an old hacksaw blade wrapped with some duck tape on one end!
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05-28-2015, 04:45 AM
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#971
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: southwest lowsyana
Posts: 542
Year: 1988
Coachwork: ward
Chassis: international
Engine: dt360a
Rated Cap: 65
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real men dont need the duct tape.
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05-29-2015, 10:00 PM
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#972
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Farmington Hills, Mi (Detroit area)
Posts: 1,968
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Eldorado Aerotech 24'
Chassis: Ford E-450 Cutaway Bus
Engine: 7.3L Powerstroke
Rated Cap: 19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by claydbal
real men dont need the duct tape.
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Real men DEPEND on duct tape.
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05-29-2015, 11:24 PM
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#973
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,231
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Hey Tango. More later but being older than you (no duct tape) I, when confronted with a broken generator bracket on a NEW truck deep in the bowels of Baja, wrapped a hack saw blade in a rag, cut off the busted piece and rigged a new bracket. The Chevy dealer wasn't pleased with my patch but did make good on the warranty. Jack
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05-30-2015, 05:37 AM
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#974
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: southwest lowsyana
Posts: 542
Year: 1988
Coachwork: ward
Chassis: international
Engine: dt360a
Rated Cap: 65
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ol trunt
Hey Tango. More later but being older than you (no duct tape) I, when confronted with a broken generator bracket on a NEW truck deep in the bowels of Baja, wrapped a hack saw blade in a rag, cut off the busted piece and rigged a new bracket. The Chevy dealer wasn't pleased with my patch but did make good on the warranty. Jack
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man, you are old!!!!!
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05-30-2015, 09:17 AM
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#975
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,231
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Hey Tango,claydbal is callin us old! I got me some rel'tives in Lowsyana whool gladly fix him right up. Just say the word! Jack
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05-30-2015, 09:42 AM
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#976
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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We're not "old"... just highly experienced!
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05-30-2015, 05:35 PM
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#977
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Snowflake, Arizona
Posts: 343
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American Rear Engine
Engine: C-8.3-300 Cummins MD3060
Rated Cap: 40 Prisoners
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Wisdom comes with age and there is a difference between a wise person
and a wise a$$. Myself I'm just a couple years shy of being as old as Tango's
bus so I hope that qualifies me as sort of wise and definitely experienced.
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05-30-2015, 10:17 PM
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#978
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,231
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Hey Tango. As you build your floor and dog house consider placing a layer of "horse stall mat" or similar hard rubber under the cover. Next to lead it is best for dampening the low frequency noise produced by our little diesels. If there is room below the floor, add a layer of the stuff GM and others use on the floor board over the cats. The combination is very effective against noise and heat. I secured that combination to my removable cowl floor with a layer of expanded metal mesh held in place with large washers and 1/4" all thread (welded to floor). It has proved to be very satisfactory. Jack
Edit: I forgot to say----to be a successful wise a$$ you first need to be wise. We qualify-----
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05-31-2015, 10:41 AM
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#979
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Hey Jack --- I'll have to check out the horse mat. Been looking at several different sound & thermal insulating products...the good stuff ain't cheap. My primary concern is the heat. My turbo downpipe will be routed pretty close to one edge of the doghouse. Close enough that I am concerned about whatever sealing material I use around the edges melting or worse...catching fire. I will be using a combination of ceramic coating, insulating tape wrapping and a small stainless shield on that section of pipe to try and minimize the transfer of heat from the pipe, but as you know...those suckers get seriously HOT.
Back to work now, should have a few new pix this evening/tonight.
Onward!
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05-31-2015, 08:20 PM
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#980
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,231
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Hey Tango. I stayed up way past my bed time (it's 6:15 PM here) and still no pics. Now I probably won't be able to sleep trying to imagine the progress you made on the front floor/dog house. Just kidding. Hope the work day went well for you. Jack
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