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05-22-2016, 09:47 AM
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#1681
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,340
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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wow!! thats bigger than the separate fuel and water separators on my 360... I found my water separator and fuel filter are totally separate devices.. mine are both under the hood.. only issue I would have with not having them close to the engine would be cold winds if you are way up north in the middle of winter... you never know just how winterized the diesel fuel is esp if bought down south..
is your filter setup 2 separate things where you could locate them in different spots or is it a single unit with 2 elements?
are you using Hydra-sist brake booster ? (power brakes that operatoe off of the power steering pump so you dont need a vacuum pump on your diesel?).. maybe thered be room on the firewall..
-Christopher
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05-22-2016, 12:20 PM
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#1682
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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There are smaller double units and much smaller singles, but after reading up on a bunch of different diesel forums, it sounds like things are getting much worse as far as fuel quality.
No room on the firewall...heck...I am still trying to find space there for the master cylinder! Will be playing around with it some more today but it looks like underbody will be about the only option for me.
And if your water separator is independent of the fuel filter...make sure it is first in line as far as fuel flow.
Back to work.
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05-22-2016, 09:46 PM
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#1683
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Slow Sunday --- Got the throttle bracket and bell crank assembled today. Other than that, just measuring and figgering on other stuff.

This is the adjustable hot rod bell crank from Raceway. I need 180 degrees to make this work.

Here it is attached to the bracket I made. Note the extra bracing for rigidity.

Same thing, just a full view.
Having to make every single component from scratch does seem to slow things down a bit.
ONWARD!
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05-22-2016, 10:17 PM
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#1684
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dowdy Lakes, Colorado
Posts: 1,444
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner ER
Engine: 3208 CAT/MT643 tranny
Rated Cap: 87
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Well, build it like a tank and ya'll never have to fix it again! That's my motto!
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Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence. — George Washington
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05-25-2016, 12:45 PM
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#1685
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Yippee-Ki Yo! --- UPS just delivered both my new Allison shifter and my dual fuel filter kit. Time to get back to work.

All mechanical T-handle for a 6-speed with park.

The only wire on this rascal is to backlight the indicator.
Will get pix of the fuel filter set up later.
ONWARD!
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05-25-2016, 12:53 PM
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#1686
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Maybe that little T handle is a line lock for doing burnouts!! Nice...
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05-25-2016, 02:05 PM
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#1687
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,340
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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nice lookin shifter!!.. so looks like you have OD.. (up to 6).. and then if you go D.. im guessing you'll only go up to 4? and then you can go from 4 to 2, 1.. interesting if thats the way it works.. makes sense though!.
-Christopher
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05-25-2016, 08:54 PM
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#1688
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,221
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Sweet Tango.  I don't mean sweet Tango, what I mean is Tango that's a sweet shifter--er ah I hope you mean what I know!?! Anyway, I like the "T" handle better than the push button on mine.. The PB would be OK if the shift lever was to my right when I drive but the only space available without having to make up a new cable put it to my left on the floor. The floor location is good, but I'd like to graft a second thunb on my left hand to operate it  . The shift pattern looks to be the same. Jack
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05-25-2016, 11:32 PM
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#1689
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Finally the truth come out between you two.
Both of you have done some amazing things, one little step at a time. I'm pretty sure that shifter increased your top end already Tango, or is it Sweet Tango?
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05-26-2016, 01:18 AM
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#1690
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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OK folks...let's keep it clean here.
Hey Jack...is yours a 6 speed? The double OD must come in handy. At least, that's what I'm hoping for.
Caddie...The way I understand it is "D" will handle everything from low to 4th on it's own but you can downshift as needed. "OD" will handle everything from 6th on down with the downshift option. Maybe Jack can chime in on this. Or is it Sweet jack?
Meanwhile, today I built a mount and installed the fuel filters.

They come with vacuum gauges so you can tell how clogged they are. They are pretty much under the pilots seat since I need to keep the engine bay for other stuff but they have plenty of ground clearance. BTW...my engine has a stock fuel filter as well. I just wanted some extra insurance after reading a few horror stories about today's fuel.

And I couldn't resist one more shifter shot. This is with the mounting wedge attached that will be fitted on the dash, just to the right of the wheel. Like Jack, I came close to a floor mount on the left, but dangit...I'm just not that ambidextrous! Besides...my parking brake will likely have to go there. Somewhere.
ONWARD!
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05-26-2016, 06:57 AM
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#1691
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,340
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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oh I want those with gauges!!! that sure couldve help me determine what my de-priming issue was.. (fixed by replacing a copper washer). is your engine like mine where the complete fuel system is in a vacuum until it reaches the injector pump?
-Christopher
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05-26-2016, 10:38 AM
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#1692
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Filters with gauges. You always come up with some of the most unique features, even on parts. Dare I say it? Sweet.
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05-26-2016, 11:15 AM
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#1693
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Cadillac --- That's my (limited) understanding of the system. And those gauges came on the dual filter kit from Seaboard Marine. They have a ton of top of the line gear for Cummins engines.
Robin --- the other filter I want a vacuum gauge on is the air intake. Most big rigs run them. They have a simple "red zone-green zone" and let you know when it's diaper needs changing.
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05-26-2016, 01:00 PM
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#1694
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Cool. I don't remember any of this type of fancy equipment with gauges from 40 years ago. Simpler times I guess. The technology of your build is leaving me in your veritable dust. Way to go.
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05-26-2016, 01:03 PM
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#1695
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,221
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Hey Tango. Great minds really must think alike. Both my fuel filter, water separator and trans oil filter are right where you put your fancy set up. When you are done with your bus and both our buses are parked next to each other, yours, with all its extra options, will look like a Nomad wagon parked next to my Biscayne wagon  . Jack
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05-26-2016, 01:56 PM
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#1696
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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05-28-2016, 07:31 PM
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#1697
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Playing Blacksmith today --- While trying to figure out my dash/firewall/pedals/brake master/etc. today, I determined that my brake pedal would need a little modification. I have modded it once, but hey...plans change. All the nice bends had to go. And oxy/acetylene does the trick if you don't have a forge handy. Get it nice and rosy...then pound hell out of it. At least that's what I recall from the movies and it seemed to work.

This is the first mod. Just shortened it.

With the kinks out. Not worried about the bottom couple of inches as I am going to cut it down and use a different and slightly smaller pedal.
It's making stuff like this that stretches a vintage project out so long.
ONWARD!
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05-28-2016, 11:20 PM
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#1698
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,221
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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And here I just thought it was the "vintageness" of the builder that was the problem.
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05-29-2016, 12:16 AM
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#1699
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Well...there is that too. I know a lot of young women who are into vintage clothes and such...but not that many who dig vintage guys.
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05-29-2016, 07:10 AM
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#1700
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,340
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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ha! if you play on my side of the street then you are considered "senior" by the time you are 30!!
you dont worry that you wrecked the strength of the metal by heating it and cooling it more than once?
your project is familiar to me in the fact that its like doing a Hot-rod project.. but then you are also building a camper too!!.. its all encompassing!!.. kudos to this project!! I love watching you build it!
-Christopher
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