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Old 08-09-2017, 03:03 PM   #261
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Which reminds me...where are the Haulin' Oats (and goats) kids these days?

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Old 08-09-2017, 03:04 PM   #262
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Which reminds me...where are the Haulin' Oats (and goats) kids these days?
I'm sure they're out there on the road or camped somewhere cool, just doing their thing.
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Old 08-09-2017, 03:37 PM   #263
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a goat? whats the baby goat for? a pet?


anytime I hear the word Goat this is what I think of.. (no its not mine).

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Old 08-10-2017, 07:02 AM   #264
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anytime I hear the word Goat this is what I think of.. (no its not mine).

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You guys know what an autocross is? I was at one and the gf tagged along. A female driver latched on to her. She could talk the ear off a fence post but that's another story... Anyway, I mentioned there being a goat at the autox. Female driver knows old cars and asked what color. White. What color inside? Pink, I guess. Where? Over there *points* Where? Under that plywood doghouse thing.

It was the furry kind of goat instead of the metal kind of goat.
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Old 08-10-2017, 07:48 AM   #265
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ha!!! too funny!! that would be me!! looking for the car! my dad has one identical to the above pic.. he bought it new in 69.. as far as i know he still has it.. they moved to a farm years ago.. so when he would mention a goat, the locals would ask "what do you feed it?".. his response was "sunoco ultra 94".. the farmers had puzzled looks.. of course after a few months people knew it was the shiny type instead of the fuzzy type. (are goats fuzzy?)
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Old 08-10-2017, 08:17 AM   #266
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She had just been talking about an old Camaro or some such that she owned in the past. Some late 60s early 70s muscle car anyway so it was a perfect setup. Not sure why there was a goat at a HS.

Angora goats are furry and fuzzy.


Regular goats are fuzzy (?).
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Old 08-10-2017, 08:41 AM   #267
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Do they taste better?
Haha.. I'll never know with this wee lass. The girls are giving us milk and more babies (potentially). If the kid were a fella then he'd be giving us a barbecue in a couple of months!
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Old 08-10-2017, 08:46 AM   #268
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This is the only other picture I have of the 3 adult gals. The mother is in the background.



And baby Phoebe going for a rip!
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Old 08-10-2017, 08:55 AM   #269
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Haha.. I'll never know with this wee lass. The girls are giving us milk and more babies (potentially). If the kid were a fella then he'd be giving us a barbecue in a couple of months!
Goat milk higher in fat than cow? Higher fat = more cheese Someone catch me a whale.
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Old 08-30-2017, 09:48 AM   #270
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Big changes! And few pictures.

Firstly, I fixed some engine leaks. Coolant was weeping from around the T444e's thermostat housing and oil was leaking from the HPOP drive gear cover.
The coolant leak was easy. While I was in there I decided to replace the thermostat as well. Nothing's ever as easy as you hope. I cross referenced thermostats and ended up with the wrong one. Dang it! Talked to the International dealer in town and they could get the correct one next day for $80. Seemed a bit steep, so I decided to test the old thermostat.




(Excuse the mess on the stove )
Thermostat checked out! Right on spec! So I cleaned things up and reinstalled it using RTV sealant.

The HPOP drive gear cover was an easy fix. It's located directly above the water pump and is sealed exclusively with RTV sealant. Here's a picture (not my own):



It was obvious that it was the leaking culprit once the plate was removed. There was some rust that made it's way under the cover so the RTV sealant was adhered to the cover. Cleaned it up, resealed it and everything is clean up front. The engine is still leaking oil around the back, though.. Haven't figured that out yet. On the one side the oil appears to be coming out the crank vent, which makes sense. The other side is a bit more curious.. The leak seems to originate from the top-rear of the right bank. Maybe a valve cover leak? It's dribbling down and coating the starter at any rate.
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Old 08-30-2017, 09:58 AM   #271
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I end up with some oil in my valley that then runs down through a weep hole near the back of the engine.. I suppose I could have the same HPOP gear leak? what do you do take the HPOP reservoire off?
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Old 08-30-2017, 10:06 AM   #272
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This was all prior to our big trip to Maine, by the way. I was working on all of this up until the moment we hopped in the bus and started on down the road.. The timing was a bit tight.

Anyhow, due to the fact that oceanside Maine is an uppity sort of place we needed to make the bus look less like a mobile meth lab before attempting to enter camp grounds in that region. Lots of sanding, cleaning, taping and it was time to paint! Oh, and put the new wheels on.





I originally intended on spraying the bus. My thinking was that all the taping and covering and setup for spraying would take too long and that brushing+rolling would be faster. I think I was wrong.. Brushing and rolling took forever! Like, 7 hours.. It was terrible. I should have sprayed. Regardless, the paint job didn't turn out too bad. Tremclad (Rustoleum) levels out pretty good even with a hog-bristle brush. The trick is to return and remove runs because you're going to get runs! I don't think there's any way around it with Tremclad. I also added Valspar Enamal hardener to speed up the drying process.. It worked well.



For all you safety conscious (which includes myself): I do have a clip-on style air chuck and I did inflate the tire from afar after mounting it on the rim. This picture was taken as I was fine-tuning the tire pressure after putting the wheel back on.

This is as far as we got on the paint job before we needed get going . The drive went well, though. 16+ hours of actual driving. The first day we didn't end up hitting the road until 9pm. I drove until 4am to get us a good distance from home. Pulled over and slept until 8:30am then finished off the trip. Arrived in Auburn, Maine around 8pm. Just enough time to finish the paint job in a Home Depot parking lot!



Phew.. got it finished up, grabbed some food and drove a sticky bus to our campsite in Wiscasset. The office was closed, but we had a reservation so we parked and dealt with check-in in the morning. By then the paint job was mostly dry to the touch.

Then it was just a fantastic party all weekend!
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Old 08-30-2017, 10:20 AM   #273
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I end up with some oil in my valley that then runs down through a weep hole near the back of the engine.. I suppose I could have the same HPOP gear leak? what do you do take the HPOP reservoire off?
-Christopher
The drive-gear cover oil leak would be right up front and dripping directly onto the water pump. The water pump on mine was coated in a goopy mess of oil and dirt. Removing and fixing the drive-gear cover problem only took 30 minutes. The serpentine belt needs to be taken off and then its just the 2 bolts that hold the cover on. Nothing else needed to be removed. Mind you, I already had the thermostat housing off, so that probably afforded a bit more working space.

An oil leak up front of the valley would probably be the HPOP O-ring (which seems like an easy fix). An oil leak at the rear of the valley would probably be something on the turbo - either the EBPV actuator or the turbo O-rings. I had a leak at the EBPV actuator and simply deleted the thing.. For my use case I don't need it.

The oil leak on the back of my T444e dribbles down the exterior of the engine, so I'm thinking it must be the valve cover. The valley is completely dry.

I have a (probably) electronic question for ya, Chris:
When I start the engine - whether it's warm or cold - and I start driving there will often be a sputter within a minute of driving, then it runs perfectly fine. During the quick cylinder miss the speedometer will die. All the other gauges continue to work fine, including the tachometer, the "Warn engine" light stays unlit. Do you have any insight into this?
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Old 09-03-2017, 01:42 AM   #274
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Really enjoyed your build. thanks for sharing. can't remember if you said you built your own stove or bought one. ever have issues with heat around the unit or did the durarock and sheet metal buffer do the trick?

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Old 09-03-2017, 08:52 AM   #275
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I purchased my stove from Gray Stove Works. It's called the Mini 12. It's nice, but for the price I kind of regret not going with a Jotul F602. It's a hair bigger.
The reason I didn't get a bigger stove is because I was worried about clearance issues. With the Mini 12 I have ~6 inches all the way around it to the shield. I thought that might be pushing it, but with the stainless steel shield 2 inches in front of the cement board the walls hardly get warm. I could have smallerized the entire stove cabinet. Or for that matter, I could still put in a Jotul F602 if I felt like laying down the cash (which I don't).
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Old 09-05-2017, 11:39 AM   #276
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Ah ha! I think I found the culprit for the right side oil leak! It seems most likely to be the Oil Rail End Plug o-rings.

https://youtu.be/nmwJHt_ERxs?t=258

Found some at http://www.dieselorings.com/ . I'll give it a go.
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This was all prior to our big trip to Maine, by the way. I was working on all of this up until the moment we hopped in the bus and started on down the road.. The timing was a bit tight.

Anyhow, due to the fact that oceanside Maine is an uppity sort of place we needed to make the bus look less like a mobile meth lab before attempting to enter camp grounds in that region. Lots of sanding, cleaning, taping and it was time to paint! Oh, and put the new wheels on.





I originally intended on spraying the bus. My thinking was that all the taping and covering and setup for spraying would take too long and that brushing+rolling would be faster. I think I was wrong.. Brushing and rolling took forever! Like, 7 hours.. It was terrible. I should have sprayed. Regardless, the paint job didn't turn out too bad. Tremclad (Rustoleum) levels out pretty good even with a hog-bristle brush. The trick is to return and remove runs because you're going to get runs! I don't think there's any way around it with Tremclad. I also added Valspar Enamal hardener to speed up the drying process.. It worked well.



For all you safety conscious (which includes myself): I do have a clip-on style air chuck and I did inflate the tire from afar after mounting it on the rim. This picture was taken as I was fine-tuning the tire pressure after putting the wheel back on.

This is as far as we got on the paint job before we needed get going . The drive went well, though. 16+ hours of actual driving. The first day we didn't end up hitting the road until 9pm. I drove until 4am to get us a good distance from home. Pulled over and slept until 8:30am then finished off the trip. Arrived in Auburn, Maine around 8pm. Just enough time to finish the paint job in a Home Depot parking lot!



Phew.. got it finished up, grabbed some food and drove a sticky bus to our campsite in Wiscasset. The office was closed, but we had a reservation so we parked and dealt with check-in in the morning. By then the paint job was mostly dry to the touch.

Then it was just a fantastic party all weekend!
Uppity is being a bit understated Jatzy. I graduated from that area in the '80's. Some things never change...... LOL

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Looking good ! It's been a long road, but you have something nice to show for the work.

I like the hinged solar panels. Very nice.
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