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09-30-2020, 02:28 PM
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#21
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New Member
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 7
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9500 originally
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09-30-2020, 02:41 PM
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#22
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: California, Bay Area
Posts: 896
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ToneBone
9500 originally
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watcha driving? Make/model, # of windows?
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09-30-2020, 04:08 PM
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#23
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Georgia
Posts: 2,264
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: IH
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 14
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Mine - 14,180.
Seats still in it, 3 pieces of plywood flooring removed (2 still in place), wheelchair lift still in place, 30-gallon tank about 3/4 full, and one chubby driver in the seat. Some random clutter in it as well.
Bus is heavier than I thought.
GVWR is 25,500. '01 IH, T444E, "6-window" Blue Bird Handy Bus. Overall length (estimated) 25'.
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09-30-2020, 04:09 PM
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#24
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,231
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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GVWR (CGVW) 1s 19,000#
Jack
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10-01-2020, 02:42 PM
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#25
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Telluride, CO
Posts: 23
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9600lb stripped out. Seats, floors, ceiling and walls.
GVWR 14,000lb
Bluebird Ford E450 6L Diesel
5 windows. 22ft long
I took it to the local dump where they weigh before and after so they know how much to charge you. I just asked them when I went up to the counter. It was also free because I was giving them recycling which they don't charge for!
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10-01-2020, 08:02 PM
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#26
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: California, Bay Area
Posts: 896
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Thanks for making the effort to weigh and report, Brad! much appreciated.
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10-02-2020, 02:07 AM
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#27
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Skoolie
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: BC Rockies
Posts: 125
Year: 93
Coachwork: Corbiel
Chassis: Ford
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 36 pass
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My camperized Ford B700, 6 window, dognose, original floor and ceiling came in at 13,117lbs. That is with fridge, stove, heater, bed, dinette, 20 gal of water, tools and all camping gear - ready to go.
I have a similar donor bus that the registration says weighed 12,654 lbs back when it was doing raft tours in stock configuration.
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10-07-2020, 09:24 PM
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#28
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Wamego Ks
Posts: 617
Year: 2007
Chassis: Collins
Engine: 6.6L LMM Duramax
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I have a 2007 chevy 3500 express 5 window 6.6l duramax diesel. I had weighed at the co-op after I had removed 4 seats (if I remember correctly) when this weight was taken.
8820 lbs
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10-09-2020, 04:35 PM
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#29
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: South Louisiana
Posts: 56
Year: 2004
Chassis: International CE300 6 window shortie
Engine: DT466
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I officially weighed my 6 window International yesterday on the way home, 2 seats remain....13,870lbs (5940/7840).
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10-09-2020, 05:22 PM
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#30
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: California, Bay Area
Posts: 896
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Quote:
Originally Posted by drtbreau
I officially weighed my 6 window International yesterday on the way home, 2 seats remain....13,870lbs (5940/7840).
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Thank you!
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10-09-2020, 05:26 PM
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#31
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 994
Year: 1999
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It would help if the GVWR is also given along with the curb weight. Huge difference there between 10,000 and 14,000 (rounding)
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10-09-2020, 05:51 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: California, Bay Area
Posts: 896
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Alright, now we are getting somewhere! Thanks everyone
Conventional Dognose Shorties:
- 6 Window International CE200 (2004, mostly empty, gvwr=21.5k): 13,900
- 6 Window International 3800, Blue Bird body (2001, mostly empty, gvwr=25.5k): 14,200
- 6 Window B700 (converted): 13,100
- 6 Window B700 (stock): 12,700
Current mean weight: 13,500
Other (non dognose shorty) contributions/datapoints in this thread:
- 5 window Chevy (1935, converted, gvwr=19k): 9800
- 9 Window International 3800 (unconverted or stock): 13,500
- 5 Window Thomas Vista stubnose (mostly empty): 12,500 (approx)
- 6 Window E450, Girardin (2003, stock, gvwr=14k): 9,300
- 5 Window E450 (mostly empty, gvwr=14k): 9,600
- 6 Window Chevy express 3500 (2007, partly empty): 8800
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10-09-2020, 08:46 PM
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#33
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,231
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Data needs a review dzl. My '35 is a dog nose so it is in the wrong table.
Jack
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10-09-2020, 10:29 PM
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#34
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: California, Bay Area
Posts: 896
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ol trunt
Data needs a review dzl. My '35 is a dog nose so it is in the wrong table.
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I suppose I can't argue with that, it is a dognose, and it is a 5-6 window shortie. I'm just being obstinate/thick-headed
I would say that I think yours is in a class of its own and needs an asterisk due to how unique as well as custom it is.
With yours included, the weights for the dogs would be:
14,200
13,900
13,100
12,700
_9,800
With an average of: 12,750
On a semi related note, is the Isuzu engine you have the same one used in the Isuzu NPR medium duty trucks?
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10-10-2020, 09:44 AM
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#35
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,231
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Yup, right out of this 40,000 mile Chevy badged W3500.
Jack
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