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Old 09-30-2020, 03:28 PM   #21
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9500 originally
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Old 09-30-2020, 03:41 PM   #22
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watcha driving? Make/model, # of windows?
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Old 09-30-2020, 05:08 PM   #23
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Mine - 14,180.
Seats still in it, 3 pieces of plywood flooring removed (2 still in place), wheelchair lift still in place, 30-gallon tank about 3/4 full, and one chubby driver in the seat. Some random clutter in it as well.

Bus is heavier than I thought.


GVWR is 25,500. '01 IH, T444E, "6-window" Blue Bird Handy Bus. Overall length (estimated) 25'.
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Old 09-30-2020, 05:09 PM   #24
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GVWR (CGVW) 1s 19,000#
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Old 10-01-2020, 03:42 PM   #25
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9600lb stripped out. Seats, floors, ceiling and walls.
GVWR 14,000lb

Bluebird Ford E450 6L Diesel
5 windows. 22ft long

I took it to the local dump where they weigh before and after so they know how much to charge you. I just asked them when I went up to the counter. It was also free because I was giving them recycling which they don't charge for!
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Old 10-01-2020, 09:02 PM   #26
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Thanks for making the effort to weigh and report, Brad! much appreciated.
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Old 10-02-2020, 03:07 AM   #27
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My camperized Ford B700, 6 window, dognose, original floor and ceiling came in at 13,117lbs. That is with fridge, stove, heater, bed, dinette, 20 gal of water, tools and all camping gear - ready to go.
I have a similar donor bus that the registration says weighed 12,654 lbs back when it was doing raft tours in stock configuration.
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Old 10-07-2020, 10:24 PM   #28
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I have a 2007 chevy 3500 express 5 window 6.6l duramax diesel. I had weighed at the co-op after I had removed 4 seats (if I remember correctly) when this weight was taken.

8820 lbs
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Old 10-09-2020, 05:35 PM   #29
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I officially weighed my 6 window International yesterday on the way home, 2 seats remain....13,870lbs (5940/7840).
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Old 10-09-2020, 06:22 PM   #30
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I officially weighed my 6 window International yesterday on the way home, 2 seats remain....13,870lbs (5940/7840).

Thank you!
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Old 10-09-2020, 06:26 PM   #31
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It would help if the GVWR is also given along with the curb weight. Huge difference there between 10,000 and 14,000 (rounding)
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Old 10-09-2020, 06:51 PM   #32
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Alright, now we are getting somewhere! Thanks everyone


Conventional Dognose Shorties:
  1. 6 Window International CE200 (2004, mostly empty, gvwr=21.5k): 13,900
  2. 6 Window International 3800, Blue Bird body (2001, mostly empty, gvwr=25.5k): 14,200
  3. 6 Window B700 (converted): 13,100
  4. 6 Window B700 (stock): 12,700
Current mean weight: 13,500


Other (non dognose shorty) contributions/datapoints in this thread:
  1. 5 window Chevy (1935, converted, gvwr=19k): 9800
  2. 9 Window International 3800 (unconverted or stock): 13,500
  3. 5 Window Thomas Vista stubnose (mostly empty): 12,500 (approx)
  4. 6 Window E450, Girardin (2003, stock, gvwr=14k): 9,300
  5. 5 Window E450 (mostly empty, gvwr=14k): 9,600
  6. 6 Window Chevy express 3500 (2007, partly empty): 8800
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Old 10-09-2020, 09:46 PM   #33
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Data needs a review dzl. My '35 is a dog nose so it is in the wrong table.
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Old 10-09-2020, 11:29 PM   #34
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Data needs a review dzl. My '35 is a dog nose so it is in the wrong table.

I suppose I can't argue with that, it is a dognose, and it is a 5-6 window shortie. I'm just being obstinate/thick-headed


I would say that I think yours is in a class of its own and needs an asterisk due to how unique as well as custom it is.


With yours included, the weights for the dogs would be:
14,200
13,900
13,100
12,700
_9,800


With an average of: 12,750




On a semi related note, is the Isuzu engine you have the same one used in the Isuzu NPR medium duty trucks?
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Old 10-10-2020, 10:44 AM   #35
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Yup, right out of this 40,000 mile Chevy badged W3500.
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