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Old 05-20-2017, 04:43 PM   #321
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OH- and the duck should be here in two weeks, maybe less. BADASS!!!!


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Old 05-20-2017, 05:28 PM   #322
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bad ass!!! does his eyes light up red? LOL

you prep like I do, take everything you can off and paint then put it back on.. makes for a nice clean look when you are done.. and makes the masking job alot easier too.
I still think some Jeep-style diamond plate corners would look great to get rid of the rust on that back.. just weld some metal in or bondo to fix the structure then plate over with diamond plate.. enough seam sealer in barriers like you did the roof hatch and nothin gonna get wet in there to rust again...

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Old 05-20-2017, 08:10 PM   #323
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bad ass!!! does his eyes light up red? LOL

you prep like I do, take everything you can off and paint then put it back on.. makes for a nice clean look when you are done.. and makes the masking job alot easier too.
I still think some Jeep-style diamond plate corners would look great to get rid of the rust on that back.. just weld some metal in or bondo to fix the structure then plate over with diamond plate.. enough seam sealer in barriers like you did the roof hatch and nothin gonna get wet in there to rust again...

-Christopher
That's the plan- but one question.
Do I need the lower pair of tail lights?
There are the two tail lights up in the row with the turn signal and reverse lights, and then the two lower tail lights. If I can legally ditch the lower lights, then diamond plate will be the route I'll take for sure. Both sides, for symmetry.
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Old 05-20-2017, 08:25 PM   #324
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legally i dont think you need them... i see plenty of motorhomes with just one set.. unless theres a state rule about tail lights at a certain height above ground-level.. that would be the only thing I could see... on mine they are also the license plate lights but thats an easy fix to have just a plate light off the wires..

honda made those older model CRV's with the tail lights up next to the back window instead of down on the bumper and sold those in all 50 states..

im trying to thoink if my carpenter even has those lights.. does RYO have them?
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Old 05-20-2017, 08:29 PM   #325
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legally i dont think you need them... i see plenty of motorhomes with just one set.. unless theres a state rule about tail lights at a certain height above ground-level.. that would be the only thing I could see... on mine they are also the license plate lights but thats an easy fix to have just a plate light off the wires..

honda made those older model CRV's with the tail lights up next to the back window instead of down on the bumper and sold those in all 50 states..

im trying to thoink if my carpenter even has those lights.. does RYO have them?
-Christopher
Yeah RYO has the same lights in the rear, only older, no led's.
I guess I'll see if I can dig up the FL regulations for tail light height.
I like redundancy, but with big LED tail lights I don't feel like having an extra pair is necessary.
my tag light is a separate unit from my tail lights, its just run from a splice off the left lower tail light's power wire.
Once I get the rust under the lower right tail light under control and paneled over, all I've gotta do is figure out something to replace the horrible WC door and its PAINT TIME!
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Old 05-20-2017, 08:34 PM   #326
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the LED's of today are pretty reliable, they dont go out like they did a few years back.. befire I drive my bus every day i always walk around it anyway with the lights on to make sure they work... (not sure why I always forget i have the light monitor on the wall.. I havent tried taking a bulb out to see if that thing actually works...

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Old 05-20-2017, 10:18 PM   #327
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What are you doing for all of this prep work? I have a e450 shorty that the previous owner didnt give a F*** when he did the paint job. John Deere green paint slapped all over it and peeling absolutely everywhere, he did no prep work and didnt care. I want to take it off and do it right. My first step is the roof. I will be doing it with elastomeric roof coating. Tomorrow I will be going to my cousins farm where I will be using their heated extremely high power pressure washer to try to blast some off.
I also have some of this (2 gallons) I will roll on before pressure washing.
After I get the old paint off what is the best way to "prep"?? I was just going to lightly sand and apply the roof coating. I am still trying to figure out preping techniques for oil based paint for the rest of the bus.
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Old 05-20-2017, 10:47 PM   #328
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What are you doing for all of this prep work? I have a e450 shorty that the previous owner didnt give a F*** when he did the paint job. John Deere green paint slapped all over it and peeling absolutely everywhere, he did no prep work and didnt care. I want to take it off and do it right. My first step is the roof. I will be doing it with elastomeric roof coating. Tomorrow I will be going to my cousins farm where I will be using their heated extremely high power pressure washer to try to blast some off.
I also have some of this (2 gallons) I will roll on before pressure washing.
After I get the old paint off what is the best way to "prep"?? I was just going to lightly sand and apply the roof coating. I am still trying to figure out preping techniques for oil based paint for the rest of the bus.
Skip the elastomeric and go for plain flat or satin white.
As for the prep work, we've been keeping it all pretty up to date in the thread. Doing the basic type of body work and prep one would do to get a nice paint job on a car, but on a bus.
LOTS of sanding!
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Old 05-21-2017, 09:58 AM   #329
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Forget looking up FL rules.
Go by Fed rules and your golden.
https://icsw.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/st...y/TBMpstr.html
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Old 05-21-2017, 10:01 AM   #330
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Oh....short answer
Tail lights are to be 15 to 72 inches above road .
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Old 05-21-2017, 11:24 AM   #331
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Oh....short answer
Tail lights are to be 15 to 72 inches above road .
Sounds like I can go ahead with my lower tail light delete, then.
Guess it was just some sort of redundancy then?
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Old 05-21-2017, 11:32 AM   #332
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it couldve even been a regulation made just for school bus use too.. like the strobes on top in some areas are required all the time for school busses but not for anything else..
id say delete away!
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Old 05-21-2017, 11:33 AM   #333
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Some pics from yesterday's WC lift removal.


We extended the lift, lowered it to the truck bed, then unbolted it. Easy peasy!

Nice to have the space and to get rid of the dead weight.
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Old 05-21-2017, 11:36 AM   #334
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The line shows where I WAS gonna cut out and repair, but now I'm gonna just slap a panel over the whole area below the rub rail on down to the bottom of the existing panel after I cut out the rust.
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Old 05-21-2017, 12:01 PM   #335
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whered you get the cool LED lights or did they come on it?
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Old 05-21-2017, 12:06 PM   #336
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whered you get the cool LED lights or did they come on it?
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They came on the bus. I'm gona take em off to paint. Just hadn't gotten to them when the pic was snapped.
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Lowes had some sales going on, and we loaded up on more tools!

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Old 05-21-2017, 07:52 PM   #338
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nice hardware!!!!
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Old 05-21-2017, 07:53 PM   #339
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Yeah, I love getting more/new tools!

Got an email this morning. The duck ornament is on its way! Should be here by the weekend. Totally unnecessary and expensive as all hell. But one of the few splurges I thought I would make. Nice new paint job will look GREAT with a shiny chrome hood ornament. And maybe a new chrome front bumper.

After pricing WC door parts and finding scant availability coupled with insane prices, I've decided to either go with an RV door back there or just panel over the whole WC door hole and throw an RV window or two on the new panel.
I wish I could find a really nice WC door used somewhere. But there just aren't a lot of buses in the junkyards anywhere around here and the few used bus parts I can find are all Thomas.

Oh well. I guess paneling over that WC door WILL help make it look a bit more "MH".
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