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05-22-2017, 09:37 AM
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#341
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,340
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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is that door shot?
-Christopher
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05-22-2017, 09:58 AM
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#342
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,715
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
is that door shot?
-Christopher
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Pretty much the entire bottom is rusted out. The lip inside that hold the seal is rotted to oblivion. It leaks when I wash the bus or when it rains.
THe seal is a crazy piece to try and duplicate or fabricate. I found a fabricator that sells the bottom piece of the door, but it would be free to panel it over, and lots of time and money to keep.
If I had my own shop, and didn't have another bus I'm trying to work on, I'd have all the time in the world to spend on this. But I'm trying to have my bus painted in the next week.
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05-22-2017, 01:47 PM
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#343
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,340
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Pretty much the entire bottom is rusted out. The lip inside that hold the seal is rotted to oblivion. It leaks when I wash the bus or when it rains.
THe seal is a crazy piece to try and duplicate or fabricate. I found a fabricator that sells the bottom piece of the door, but it would be free to panel it over, and lots of time and money to keep.
If I had my own shop, and didn't have another bus I'm trying to work on, I'd have all the time in the world to spend on this. But I'm trying to have my bus painted in the next week.
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definitely sounds like a take out... since yours almost looks like it was an afterthought.. you going to yank the outer frame and all off too? or just make a flat panel and a Nice big RV window for back there so it looks kinda like a "bay window"
-Christopher
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05-22-2017, 03:44 PM
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#344
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,715
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
definitely sounds like a take out... since yours almost looks like it was an afterthought.. you going to yank the outer frame and all off too? or just make a flat panel and a Nice big RV window for back there so it looks kinda like a "bay window"
-Christopher
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Yeah, without the door, it leaves a nice flat rectangular space that would be easy to panel over. I'll throw a couple pieces of 1" square tubing or something behind it.
I wouldn't mind keeping it, but its gonna cost so much its not worth it.
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05-22-2017, 03:48 PM
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#345
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,340
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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my carpenter has one.. just behind the main door.. I love it.. EXCEPT it is a source of huge cold and hot air infiltration.. I have worked on the seals, etc.. but m,an this winter driving.. even with 7 heaters on high, the soda pop on the floor next to the door still froze.... granted it was 14 degrees outside but still that was inside the bus on a long road trip.. when I put it there as I left the gas station hours before it was liquid..
so yeah those dorrs can be a PITA
-Christopher
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05-22-2017, 03:50 PM
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#346
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,715
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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My rear door hinges are so bad, I'm gona have to rob two off the WC door. SO there's another excuse to delete the sucker!
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05-22-2017, 05:03 PM
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#347
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,715
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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And since I'm loving my new riveter, I've ordered some 3/16" rivets in short grip ranges. Stainless closed end all the way!
Now i'll have a range of rivets for various applications.
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05-22-2017, 05:12 PM
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#348
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,340
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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once you got the hang of that thing is was slick as could be..
-Christopher
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05-22-2017, 05:20 PM
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#349
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,715
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
once you got the hang of that thing is was slick as could be..
-Christopher
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Yeah, I like rivets now! A LOT!
So current plan is paneling over the rear windows and WC door. That will be a total of 6 "delete" panels on this shorty!
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05-22-2017, 06:05 PM
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#350
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Kalispell, MT
Posts: 290
Year: 1993
Coachwork: Amtran Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 84
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
And since I'm loving my new riveter, I've ordered some 3/16" rivets in short grip ranges. Stainless closed end all the way!
Now i'll have a range of rivets for various applications.
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So what riveter did you get? I've got a pneumatic one but think it's a little small for the bus application. As always we want pics!!
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05-22-2017, 06:32 PM
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#351
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,715
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Asetechrail
So what riveter did you get? I've got a pneumatic one but think it's a little small for the bus application. As always we want pics!!
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The big HF model.
It handles 1/4" rivets for $70. But they have a 20% off coupon rt now.
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05-22-2017, 08:31 PM
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#352
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: SE Florida
Posts: 1,108
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 65 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
ha!! maybe EC and i have started a trendx.. Skoolies as daily drivers!
-Christopher
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I just told someone today that I was seriously looking for a shorty for just that reason... you two have me sold on it
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05-23-2017, 05:29 AM
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#353
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,715
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WanderWoman
I just told someone today that I was seriously looking for a shorty for just that reason... you two have me sold on it 
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I'll keep an eye out. I went crazy bidding on a BB shorty in GA a week or two ago, but that thing went for nearly 6 grand.
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05-23-2017, 03:34 PM
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#354
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 774
Year: 2002
Coachwork: International
Engine: dt466
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Seriously? A Riveter for $70?
I want/need to have one.
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05-23-2017, 03:54 PM
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#355
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,715
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tobeamiss
Seriously? A Riveter for $70?
I want/need to have one.
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For what it is, and what it cost, it CANNOT be beat.
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05-23-2017, 04:20 PM
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#356
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 774
Year: 2002
Coachwork: International
Engine: dt466
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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That's good to know for when I get settled and want to do future work. For right now, I'm getting it done as complete as I can so I can hit the road but I'll will be renovating and making mods in the future. I have some rust issues back by the license plate but for now I'm using Bondo. I don't like having to do that so I'll work on it at a later date and get it done the right way.
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05-23-2017, 04:25 PM
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#357
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,715
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tobeamiss
That's good to know for when I get settled and want to do future work. For right now, I'm getting it done as complete as I can so I can hit the road but I'll will be renovating and making mods in the future. I have some rust issues back by the license plate but for now I'm using Bondo. I don't like having to do that so I'll work on it at a later date and get it done the right way.
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I'm thinking about cutting an access panel inside to better get at the rear "butt cheek" on mine that's rusty.
Went out today and did some ospho application, some adhesive removal, and gave it a good bath with dawn before the rains come tonight and tomorrow.
After looking at my WC door REAL HARD for a hour, I'm waffling on deleting it.
IF if could find the rubber seal, or someone to make it for me, I'd be inclined to possibly repair the rusty bottom edge and guts and try to keep it.
But I'm on a time budget and steel is cheaper for me than anything else.
Choices choices choices.
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05-23-2017, 04:30 PM
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#358
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Billings, MT
Posts: 1,269
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: HDX
Engine: Cat C7
Rated Cap: 84 passenger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tobeamiss
That's exactly what I've been doing the past few of days lol. They loaded the bus up with it!
I don't know what I'm using to get the gluey residue off.
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I do believe that 3M puts out a product for that, available at any automotive paint shop or Amazon.
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05-23-2017, 04:33 PM
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#359
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,715
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptSquid
I do believe that 3M puts out a product for that, available at any automotive paint shop or Amazon.
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I've got Goof Off, 3M adhesive remover, Naptha, mineral spirits, acetone, a heat gun, and lots of other tools and chemicals.
Nothing seems to take off the adhesive from the reflective tape at all. Its just smearing.
I end up softening it just a little by SATURATING it, then carefully scraping it.
I'm goin ham on it next time with a wire wheel on a drill, I think.
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05-23-2017, 04:36 PM
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#360
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: SE Florida
Posts: 1,108
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 65 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
I'll keep an eye out. I went crazy bidding on a BB shorty in GA a week or two ago, but that thing went for nearly 6 grand.
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[emoji15] yeah. I'm looking to spend $2K
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