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Old 06-19-2017, 09:04 AM   #581
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here in ohio most of the full-size busses are without, all of the handicap busses do.. as well as any summer school runner full-size busses..

theres a ton of shuttle busses around this city though.. from Limo companies to airports, old folks homes, day care centers etc.. many of them have Carrier A/C, the good ones have Trans/AIR ..

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Old 06-19-2017, 09:45 AM   #582
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here in ohio most of the full-size busses are without, all of the handicap busses do.. as well as any summer school runner full-size busses..

theres a ton of shuttle busses around this city though.. from Limo companies to airports, old folks homes, day care centers etc.. many of them have Carrier A/C, the good ones have Trans/AIR ..

https://busride.com/carrier-selling-...s-ac-business/

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There were quite a few shuttle buses.
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Old 06-19-2017, 09:53 AM   #583
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A/C equipment in a shuttle bus is pretty much the same as in a school bus.. just different compressor bracketry to mount to a school bus engine instead of a van engine..
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Old 06-19-2017, 09:58 AM   #584
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A/C equipment in a shuttle bus is pretty much the same as in a school bus.. just different compressor bracketry to mount to a school bus engine instead of a van engine..
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I'd likely have to change all of that anyway. There wasn't a single RE in the bunch. Much disappoint there was.
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[reply to BrewerBob's ID of a scrapyard] Well, I can certainly find my way to the Conowingo Dam. I'll give it a look-see. Thanks!
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Old 06-21-2017, 12:53 PM   #586
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I'd likely have to change all of that anyway. There wasn't a single RE in the bunch. Much disappoint there was.
I know there are forum members who have yanked their dual A/C units off of the 8.3's, someone .. cowlitz perhaps said there is some reason that mounting 2 compressors on an 8.3 is hard on the front cover of the engine.
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Old 06-21-2017, 01:12 PM   #587
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[reply to BrewerBob's ID of a scrapyard] Well, I can certainly find my way to the Conowingo Dam. I'll give it a look-see. Thanks!
Did you get a bus yet? If not, quit slacking. If so, what did you get? The scrap yard doesn't have an online inventory but they had Blue Birds, Thomas, and International.

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I know there are forum members who have yanked their dual A/C units off of the 8.3's, someone .. cowlitz perhaps said there is some reason that mounting 2 compressors on an 8.3 is hard on the front cover of the engine.
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Are you talking about engine driven ACs? LincolnEcho (or whatever) has my bus with AC and the MD3060 tranny. So, I know there are OEM parts out there for the 8.3L that are on my want list.

Or were you talking dual alternators? Millicent was looking to do dual alts.

I don't remember any dual ACs off an engine unless that's another name for split system. Then again, relying on my memory is never a good idea.
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Old 06-21-2017, 01:30 PM   #588
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the big busses all have dual A/C if they have it at all... you cant get much more than 65k BTU out of a single standard compressor.. so the 8.3's ive seen (on big busses) had dual compressors.. its not to say that you couldnt mod the brwcketry to run one A/C compressor and one extra alternator..

not an 8.3 but the compressor mount on my DT-360 looks just like an alternator mount with a couple extra pieces added to make it an A/C.. there were a ton of different configurations available..

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Old 06-21-2017, 01:37 PM   #589
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the big buses all have dual A/C if they have it at all... you cant get much more than 65k BTU out of a single standard compressor.. so the 8.3's I've seen (on big buses) had dual compressors.. its not to say that you couldn't mod the bracketry to run one A/C compressor and one extra alternator..

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Ah, gotcha. I don't have AC but assumed they were the same as cars (single compressor). Didn't know they ran two compressors. The next question is do I need dual compressors? I'm not a school bus with 37 drafty windows with 137 snot lickers on it. I have (not yet) 5 RV windows that are double-paned, 37 storage cabinets, and 2 non snot lickers. I also have a good deal more and better insulation.
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Old 06-21-2017, 01:40 PM   #590
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not likely you need 2.. in fact the only purpose of the engine system is for driving... so if it were mine id do like i did on my carpenter which is Dashboard A/C.. thaty blows on me.. so i stay nice N cool... I also have a small rear unit too but the main idea was to keep me cool since 99% of the time in that bus its just me driving it.. (the red one I have peoiple with me many times).. so for you front A/C is the idea..
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Old 06-21-2017, 01:48 PM   #591
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not likely you need 2.. in fact the only purpose of the engine system is for driving... so if it were mine id do like i did on my carpenter which is Dashboard A/C.. thaty blows on me.. so i stay nice N cool... I also have a small rear unit too but the main idea was to keep me cool since 99% of the time in that bus its just me driving it.. (the red one I have peoiple with me many times).. so for you front A/C is the idea..
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Me and the gf. But how often is the gf going to be somewhere besides the front seat while driving? I need to ask this of the full timers not you per se. Walking around while going 60 mph sounds like a bad idea as she is equilibrium challenged while walking in general. She's a defective Weeble Wobble. I can see her taking a nap while driving around and who likes to sleep and sweat?

For front AC that isn't immediately dash/me, I could hang a curtain to shut off the rest of the bus while traveling and she'd still get enough air I would think.
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Did you get a bus yet? If not, quit slacking. If so, what did you get? The scrap yard doesn't have an online inventory but they had Blue Birds, Thomas, and International.
Good to know! I had thought you were just talking about a yard where I could pick up lengths of bar & tube stock, etc. I didn't pick up that they had buses!

No bus yet. 2 projects in line ahead of it. 1) get the house that I raised the family in cleaned up and rentable. You know how you look around and say "I should fix that someday"? 34 years of someday is now. 2) reassemble the damn pool table. (and find a place to put a bus now that I don't have the back yard anymore).

40 foot Thomas w/8.3 and 3060 and full belly lockers. The usual unicorn.
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Old 06-22-2017, 02:00 PM   #593
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Good to know! I had thought you were just talking about a yard where I could pick up lengths of bar & tube stock, etc. I didn't pick up that they had buses!
Oh. They had some, not a lot and it's out in the weather so not exactly clean. Would need sanded at the very least.

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No bus yet. 2 projects in line ahead of it. 1) get the house that I raised the family in cleaned up and rentable. You know how you look around and say "I should fix that someday"? 34 years of someday is now. 2) reassemble the damn pool table. (and find a place to put a bus now that I don't have the back yard anymore).
I have 12 yrs of those only I'd rather sell. Problem is the house is still upside down.

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40 foot Thomas w/8.3 and 3060 and full belly lockers. The usual unicorn.
FYI, the Thomas buses have windows that slope inward. Probably not much of a difference if you're leaving it alone. But a rood raise will only exaggerate it.
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Old 06-23-2017, 06:59 AM   #595
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Because of the window lean or other reasons as well? It would be nice to have screws for the ceiling panels instead of rivets.
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I dont like thomas because they put Dash vents in the defroster duct == worthless.. lolol
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I dont like thomas because they put Dash vents in the defroster duct == worthless.. lolol
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What does that mean? You have to have vents in the defroster else it won't defrost.
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Old 06-23-2017, 09:09 AM   #598
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What does that mean? You have to have vents in the defroster else it won't defrost.
they put face-facing vents in the defroster duct.. its minor.. never liked it because it would make m,y life much more difficult to install Dashboard A/C than in other brands..

the only thomas I want is a Safe-T-Liner C2. - that real modern looking skoolie.. that dash was built right with the dash vents on a separate blower and able to put dash-air easily.. - they used a freightliner FL70 dashboard.

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Old 06-23-2017, 09:19 AM   #599
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they put face-facing vents in the defroster duct.. its minor.. never liked it because it would make m,y life much more difficult to install Dashboard A/C than in other brands..

the only thomas I want is a Safe-T-Liner C2. - that real modern looking skoolie.. that dash was built right with the dash vents on a separate blower and able to put dash-air easily.. - they used a freightliner FL70 dashboard.

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Most of that is greek to me but I'm beginning to think you're an AC snob.

^It's ok, just poking you. We are all snobs on one topic or another.
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:42 AM   #600
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ha!! i just like to be Mister cool in the seat of the bus... which is funny because in my cars i drive with the windows down all the time.. ands in my house I only run the A/C in the bedroom zone of the house unless its crazy hot out..

but in the busses it gets blasted hot since i dont have an RE.. so I want my A/C more than Gen Xers want their MTV..

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