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Old 04-13-2017, 06:24 PM   #121
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Yeah definitely wanna see what you can do with this fan of mine.

Drove McShortface out to meet some forum members today and show them the RYO bus. Lizbitz67 is REALLY nice... A really cool couple from NC passing through FL. I just LOVE visitors, especially visitors who like to talk BUSES!
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Old 04-13-2017, 09:22 PM   #122
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Sweet!!! I love meeting fellow skoolies too! There are some in st Pete area, haven't seen them seem interested in meeting yet, soon the fan testing on my end will kick into high gear, I got the bus 90% pit back together , new harness is run to. Clutch, oil pump water pump new belts new clutch and blade all back together, new blade even fit the shroud without mods. Flush and refilled the coolant with the new amsoil ELC. Tomorrow I should have the wiring all finished in the dash and just need to refill the heater loops separate .. if it doesn't rain I may be able to start the bus and test. Supposed to be 80 Saturday here so I'll know once I get the air out of the poking system if it's better, oh yeah gotta. Ha he the oil, but that's easy.

Hoping to be on my way to Florida in time for Ocala. Are you going?
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Old 04-13-2017, 09:43 PM   #123
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Sweet!!! I love meeting fellow skoolies too! There are some in st Pete area, haven't seen them seem interested in meeting yet, soon the fan testing on my end will kick into high gear, I got the bus 90% pit back together , new harness is run to. Clutch, oil pump water pump new belts new clutch and blade all back together, new blade even fit the shroud without mods. Flush and refilled the coolant with the new amsoil ELC. Tomorrow I should have the wiring all finished in the dash and just need to refill the heater loops separate .. if it doesn't rain I may be able to start the bus and test. Supposed to be 80 Saturday here so I'll know once I get the air out of the poking system if it's better, oh yeah gotta. Ha he the oil, but that's easy.

Hoping to be on my way to Florida in time for Ocala. Are you going?
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We're goin to YellowXJ's on the 22nd, yes.
Cant wait to see you and your bus, I'm very interested to see how your cooling system does and I'd love to have you look at my engine with your computer if possible.
You think you'll make it there?
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Old 04-17-2017, 06:54 AM   #124
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One day, I'm gona end up putting one of these in a shorty for the fun of it.


https://www.truckpaper.com/listings/...1989-cat-3406b
Maybe find an older shorty with a bad engine... swap in the big Cat and a ten speed.
I dream of this bus from time to time.
It would use a lot of fuel, but man it would be BADASS.
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Old 04-17-2017, 07:13 AM   #125
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thered be more engine than bus!.. you could take it to the track and bust hard in the 1/8 mile LOL.. or at least have good 300 ft times..
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Old 04-17-2017, 07:34 AM   #126
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thered be more engine than bus!.. you could take it to the track and bust hard in the 1/8 mile LOL.. or at least have good 300 ft times..
-Christopher
I'd LOVE to have a hot rod shorty!
I also think we could all have fun doing a 1/4 mile night at some drag strip with our buses. Imagine- "annual skoolie drags".
If this year goes well like I'm hoping, I'll get this going next year.
I'm thinking a 6-8 window CE bus of some kind (something cool), and this drivetrain would be a real dandy. The firewall would likely be cut, and a doghouse could be added. Imagine a larger version of a Thomas Vista sort of setup.
Or even some radical mid engine design built from a FE bus.
Maybe I'll keep my McShortface so long, one day I'll HAVE to replace the engine and I'll just go apeshit on modding it!?
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Old 04-17-2017, 07:51 AM   #127
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a Hotrod bus was what I had started with my first bus... the little Bluebird with a 454... before i lost interest in it I had built up the 454 to some extent...

it did Squeal the tires....

But a Coal-Rollin Diesel Hotrod bus sounds mega-fun!

peter-bilt style stacks comin up right next to the windshield..
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Old 04-17-2017, 07:55 AM   #128
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a Hotrod bus was what I had started with my first bus... the little Bluebird with a 454... before i lost interest in it I had built up the 454 to some extent...

it did Squeal the tires....

But a Coal-Rollin Diesel Hotrod bus sounds mega-fun!

peter-bilt style stacks comin up right next to the windshield..
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Stacks will be a MUST.
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Old 04-17-2017, 03:59 PM   #129
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Just got back form Oreilly's. Ms McShortface is getting an oil change this afternoon.
Other than there being nearly 5 gallons of oil in it, shouldn't be too bad.
Plenty of room to get under it!
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Old 04-17-2017, 04:07 PM   #130
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How difficult do you think it would be to replace a 5.9 with that 8.3?

Also, why would you want to put a cat in your bus? Previously cats were one of my favorite engines to work on, but then I wasn't buying the parts.
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Old 04-17-2017, 04:36 PM   #131
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Just got back form Oreilly's. Ms McShortface is getting an oil change this afternoon.
Other than there being nearly 5 gallons of oil in it, shouldn't be too bad.
Plenty of room to get under it!

its an easy oil change to do... use the WIX 51734 or Napa FIL 1734 filter... dont use the XE... the microns are too small and it ends up stopped up way too quick. be sure to fill up the filter before you screw it on, or you run the risk of running the HPOP dry on startup. you'll probably notice it running quieter after you oil it up... I run Rotella T 15W40 in mine and it runs like a champ. mine takes a little less than 5 gallons.. in fact I accidentilly over filled mine this time by a couple quarts.. its way up on the stick.. im sure I'll blow a little through my oil recirculator till it leaks down over time..

this one's for you EC, for starting the Bus to Starbucks trend..



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Old 04-17-2017, 05:36 PM   #132
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How difficult do you think it would be to replace a 5.9 with that 8.3?

Also, why would you want to put a cat in your bus? Previously cats were one of my favorite engines to work on, but then I wasn't buying the parts.
I want a BIG, mechanical old school class 8 Cat. The 3406 is a LEGEND. One of the BEST engines ever put in a rig.
I'd not bother swapping a 5.9 in an FE rig, but if I had one in a conventional and it went out, I'd definitely look into an 8.3 swap.
Heck, maybe I'll settle for an 8.3 shorty some day.
But my DREAM bus is a 6 window with class 8 drivetrain swap.
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its an easy oil change to do... use the WIX 51734 or Napa FIL 1734 filter... dont use the XE... the microns are too small and it ends up stopped up way too quick. be sure to fill up the filter before you screw it on, or you run the risk of running the HPOP dry on startup. you'll probably notice it running quieter after you oil it up... I run Rotella T 15W40 in mine and it runs like a champ. mine takes a little less than 5 gallons.. in fact I accidentilly over filled mine this time by a couple quarts.. its way up on the stick.. im sure I'll blow a little through my oil recirculator till it leaks down over time..

this one's for you EC, for starting the Bus to Starbucks trend..



-Christopher
NICE!
I like where this is going... gimme a little while to roll my own, and I wanna start a "Bus Ride Game" thread. I'll put the rules etc all together. It will be FUN!!!
Nothing beats the looks from the starbucks crowd when you roll up in a diesel shorty!
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Old 04-17-2017, 05:46 PM   #134
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I didn't fill the filter, but I'll remember that next time. I'm planning on doing 6000 mile intervals, since I drive it a lot and oil is cheap.
Stuff that came out didn't look terrible for used diesel oil, but not knowing the last time it was changed and having it come all the way here from Colorado, changing it has been on my to-do list since I've gotten it home.
Gonna hit Tractor Supply tonight or tomorrow for some HotShots oil additive. May as well while its ten bucks off a fifty dollar jug!
I wouldn't even bother, but if Sojourner says its AWESOME, I believe him. He's a no-nonsense kinda guy, like me.
Not too many folks change their bus oil in their driveway, but I just did and life is blissful.




Checked and adjusted my tire pressure, and went ahead and cleaned the wheels and tires. Shaun used some high dollar tire conditioner stuff... They look amazing... like new!
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Yeah, I think we all see people with bus envy when we're in town.
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Old 04-17-2017, 06:34 PM   #136
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3406 CAT weights about 3000 pounds all by itself, almost 3 times the weight of your current engine, and you would be much faster with an automatic behind it over a 10 speed, having driven semi's with both
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3406 CAT weights about 3000 pounds all by itself, almost 3 times the weight of your current engine, and you would be much faster with an automatic behind it over a 10 speed, having driven semi's with both
I know, I know. But this same chassis has had MUCH heavier engines than just the 444 put into it. It would require a LOT of work and total modding of a ton of stuff.
But folks have done way crazier stuff than this. Its doable, and I just GOTTA have one some day. Even if I have to go RE or design some mid engine setup.
After RYO is finished... then I'll get real serious and make it happen. If a guy can turn a bus into an albatross, this should be a piece of cake!
THe ten speed is optional... Auto would be much easier to do for sure.
I've been looking into it and I'm pretty sure it really wouldn't be THAT bad a swap, for what it is.
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That would be interesting to put a 3000 lb engine in a medium duty truck. Keep an eye out for and extra leaf spring or two for that front axle. I say it's doable.
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Old 04-17-2017, 07:16 PM   #139
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That would be interesting to put a 3000 lb engine in a medium duty truck. Keep an eye out for and extra leaf spring or two for that front axle. I say it's doable.
Hell while I'm dreaming and "building sandcastles" I may as well put a full air ride setup in the front, to be more badass, and it could be designed around all the extra weight.
What's an extra half ton or so on a bus?? meh!
My dt466 was available in these shorties and its nearly 2000 lbs, isn't it?
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Well, when you put it that way... Even with factory suspension the extra weight should make it ride smoother.

I'm mathamatically challenged.
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