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Old 04-28-2019, 10:14 AM   #21
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I made a horizontal rack to the rear of the DS front wheel for our spare tire and wheel.
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Old 04-28-2019, 02:20 PM   #22
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Are you worried about clearance at all with that?
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Old 04-28-2019, 07:04 PM   #23
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Are you worried about clearance at all with that?
NO.. It's a few inches higher than the front axle. Being close to the wheel it hasn't been a problem in a couple year's use. I've had the bus stuck in deep mud and it's been fine.
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Are you worried about clearance at all with that?
I like the idea, so I went out and measured. The battery box sits about 2" below the skirt of the bus It's 25" to the ground. If the rack took up 12" of that you would still have 13" clearance right behind the front wheel. Wheel and tire are just under 12" wide, so I think it would work with no issues. I believe there is even room under the fuel tank for one.
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NO.. It's a few inches higher than the front axle. Being close to the wheel it hasn't been a problem in a couple year's use. I've had the bus stuck in deep mud and it's been fine.
Do you have 22.5 wheels. The center of the axle is 19.5", your rack has 22" of ground clearance? Sure doesn't look like it. Bottom looks lower than axle.
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Old 04-29-2019, 08:55 AM   #26
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Do you have 22.5 wheels. The center of the axle is 19.5", your rack has 22" of ground clearance? Sure doesn't look like it. Bottom looks lower than axle.
"NO.. It's a few inches higher than the front axle."
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I decided to run all steer/multi position tires. That way I can swap them anywhere I want. I moved my spare from the side to just behind the rear axle. As I was mounting a water tank on the side where the spare was. So I purchased 7 new tires so they would all match.

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I decided to run all steer/multi position tires. That way I can swap them anywhere I want. I moved my spare from the side to just behind the rear axle. As I was mounting a water tank on the side where the spare was. So I purchased 7 new tires so they would all match.

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The TC2000 I just got has steer tires on the back. As soon as I got on the damp grass I thought the tranny started slipping. Tow truck was there after pulling it out of the driveway. I yelled to me that the back tires were just spinning. I rocked it back and forth about 10 times before I juts had him pull me forward another 10'. Huge difference in traction with steers in the back.
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I have emergency road service for the bus, but I still also keep with me the basic tools to change a wheel myself. I have four bottle jacks: two 20-ton, a 12-ton and a low-profile 12-ton, some lengths of 6" x 8" timber, two thick steel plates for the jacks, and a 1"-drive 40"-long breaker bar and extension and a Budd socket. Putting my body weight on the end of a 40" breaker will give me almost exactly the correct 500 ft/lb for tightening the nuts, but getting them off could be a challenge. I think I'll buy one of those reduction-geared doohickies, but all of them I've seen seem to be very poor quality.

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I'm looking at picking up one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Lift-B-00...dp/B00DGXVUY8/


My bus is rated for a GVWR of 9600 pounds, so I figured that's around 2,400 per wheel and a two ton jack should be plenty fine to replace a single tire.



But how do you use the steel plates in conjunction with the jack? Put one on the ground to support it, and one under the frame for the same thing? Is there any slippage?
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Jacking steel on steel is prohibited in the railroad industry because of slippage. Hardwood is always used instead.

I have a spare but have not made a carrier for it yet. I figure I can always use one of the duals if I have to. Although must say have a matching spare is nice.
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Iím considering buying three of those jacks to also level the bus... is this a dumb idea? Should I just get one jack to swap out a tire, and then drive up on plywood to level it?
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I decided to run all steer/multi position tires. That way I can swap them anywhere I want. I moved my spare from the side to just behind the rear axle. As I was mounting a water tank on the side where the spare was. So I purchased 7 new tires so they would all match.

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you will regret the first time you hit wet grass or a tiny bit of mud - l had duals on my 1 tons - kept snow and mud tires on them year round and put over 100,000 miles on every tire on every truck I had them on - they didn't seem to make any more noise than the summer tires on front did -mud, wet grass, snow, and I was still going
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NO.. It's a few inches higher than the front axle. Being close to the wheel it hasn't been a problem in a couple year's use. I've had the bus stuck in deep mud and it's been fine.
The rack is a bit over 9in. from the ground.
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The rack is a bit over 9in. from the ground.

So on a 22.5 tire the rack is 10" below the center as I suspected. It is obvious in the picture it is not centered.
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So on a 22.5 tire the rack is 10" below the center as I suspected. It is obvious in the picture it is not centered.
265/70/19.5 tires
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That only added 1.5".
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you will regret the first time you hit wet grass or a tiny bit of mud - l had duals on my 1 tons - kept snow and mud tires on them year round and put over 100,000 miles on every tire on every truck I had them on - they didn't seem to make any more noise than the summer tires on front did -mud, wet grass, snow, and I was still going
Do keep in mind most one tons spin wheels if you look at them wrong. Just no real weight on the drive wheels at least when empty. A bus has lot of weight on the drive. I am more concerned with sinking in soft ground then loosing traction. I am running steer on all wheels myself. Not suggesting everyone do that, just my choice to keep all tires the same.
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Do keep in mind most one tons spin wheels if you look at them wrong. Just no real weight on the drive wheels at least when empty. A bus has lot of weight on the drive. I am more concerned with sinking in soft ground then loosing traction. I am running steer on all wheels myself. Not suggesting everyone do that, just my choice to keep all tires the same.
not to exaggerate, but I was going places and doing things in my 1 tons, carrying 1/2 ton of weight, and good snow tires, where some 4x4s weren't able to make it - I came across a motorhome that was stuck in the snow in a pull out - 2 different guys in their 4x4s couldn't budge him - when I pulled up in my one ton, one guy asked what I thought I was going to do with my 2 wheel drive, in a smart assed way - I told him. 'watch and learn' - I got the big motor home moving with no problem - the smart assed guy called me an asshole - lol - had several people look under the front to see if I was telling the truth about 2 wheel drive at other times - don't tell anyone the 'BIG' secret ( it must be a secret because so few seem to know about it ), but the key to driving in the snow is the same as driving on pavement, if your wheels are spinning, you're giving it too much gas
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The 1/2 ton of weight really helps. Spinning wheels in the snow just turns it to ice. A bit of weight and good driving techniques can do a lot.
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The 1/2 ton of weight really helps. Spinning wheels in the snow just turns it to ice. A bit of weight and good driving techniques can do a lot.
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