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Old 11-21-2015, 11:47 PM   #1
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Old 11-22-2015, 12:27 AM   #2
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I don't know much about these and will have to study up on some of the specialized lingo. What I do know so far is:

2002 Ford E-450 w/Thomas shell
PowerStroke 7.3liter Turbo Diesel
119,000 miles

It was still in service in San Diego, CA as of 4/2015. It was operated by both First Student & LaidLaw. A couple months ago the guy I got it from bought it and moved it up to Lake Tahoe, but his landlord was not happy about it.

Overall plan is to turn it into a moto hauler and support vehicle. I ride just about any kind of moto I can get my hands on. I recently started getting more into dirtbikes. The idea with this thing is to be able to put (3-4) dirtbikes the back portion (maybe a small trailer one day) and load 4-8 of us in the front. It will also hold our support/camp gear. Im thinking afold down counter in the back that will be used for a large campstove or rebuilding a carburator. Nothing too fancy, very functional, but I do get caught up in my toys/projects. Thank goodness my girlfriend is supportive, encouraging and love to ride on her bikes as much as I do on mine!

Its also likely to take on the look of an apocalypse survival vehicle.

My to be fixed list is short, so far:
-replace all dash bulbs(half are out)
-replace driver door lock cylinder(ignition key doesnt fit)
-secure passenger load door
-secure rear door
-replace headlights/maybe upgrade
-replace all running/turn/brake bulbs
-swap out right side run/brake lens to match the left side
-right side mirror electrics
-remount passenger door mechanicals(tons of vibrations & noise)

To be removed:
-all but (4) double seats
-half wall behind driver seat
-front quarter dome mirrors
-Stop Sign
-lettering

Additions/upgrades/etc
-moto wheel chocks (auto locking type)
-tye down points
-Stereo & speakers
-(3) ProComp 8" 130watt Off Road lights (already owned)
-Limo tint bottom half of rear side windows (to hide the motos)
-folding service/cooking counter
-rear view camera
-front Bull Bar style bumper (like on the big rigs in Mexico, not the soccer Mom style)(DREAM LIST)
-roof rack/race viewing platform(roof escape hatch access)(DREAM LIST)
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Old 11-22-2015, 02:28 AM   #3
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Funny thing is, I used to play alot of paintball and even founded a team....
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Old 11-22-2015, 09:48 AM   #4
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Welcome, building a toy hauler myself for ATV's. Check out "Whitey the toy hauler" these guys did a great build [to me anyway] for haulin' road/dirt bikes.

I've got got family in LA, Whittier and Desert Hot Springs, haven't been there since the early 70's....

I've got got buddies that play in a garage band called "SHORT BUS"
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:07 AM   #5
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Welcome, building a toy hauler myself for ATV's. Check out "Whitey the toy hauler" these guys did a great build [to me anyway] for haulin' road/dirt bikes.

I've got got family in LA, Whittier and Desert Hot Springs, haven't been there since the early 70's....

I've got got buddies that play in a garage band called "SHORT BUS"
Thanks REDD! I definitely like whats been done on Whitey, but wish it wasnt a recap, but as it was being built
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:28 AM   #6
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Most of yesterday was spent at "church", in other words, riding with good friends. But towards the end my buddy and I headed home and spent a couple hours on the bus. Not much was actually done, but we looked alot of stuff over, measured things and just poked around. The big thing we discussed was the ramp for loading bikes, we now have a few ideas on hinging it to the rear bumper. That was it will not take up storage space inside and will add a level of security to the back door.

Today, after work I got it insured and registered. Once I got home, I did alot of stuff.
-Removed front 1/4 dome mirrors and brackets
-Removed Stop Sign
-Removed old front license plate (stripped bolts)
-Painted the grill Satin Black
-Moved front/top red lenses to the rear
-Moved rear/top amber lenses to the front
-Cleaned windshield & driver door windows w/ Windex and razor blade
-Removed some of excessive stickers from the cabin area
-Fitted a moto grip to the Pass Door Handle
-Cleaned garbage and misc hardware out of the cupholders

Tomorrow, I plan to remove the drivers door lock cylinder and get it to the locksmith for a new key, then I can work on making the rest of the doors secure. Probably give the doghouse and dash a good cleansing, cause its pretty nasty! I also hope to take the heatgun to the lettering and have that gone.

Its shaping up real good! On Thursday morning, Im taking it from Oakland to Redding to see my Grandpa. its a bit over 250 miles each way.


A friend who had a 30something foot bus a few years back told me that California requires you to repaint the bus any color other than yellow. Can anyone confirm this? I really dont like the yellow, but Im not looking forward to repainting it either. If I do, it will probably goto a Satin Tan/Desert, but a Satin Medium Grey is also a possibility.
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Old 11-26-2015, 01:11 AM   #7
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Last night, I did alot of general cleaning on the cabin area, removed old stickers, mounted a RamMount phone holder to existing holes in the dash, got rid of the noises in the access panels above the cabin.
I also stopped by an auto parts and got new Taillight and dash bulbs, cause I like knowing those are new! I also got the Drivers Door Lock Cylinder, so I can actually lock it, finally.

Today, I spent hours on the phone with many insurance companys, but finally got that resolved. Installing new headlights, but ones that allow me to use any H4 bulbs. As well, they are blacked out and have LEDs that can be used as DayTimeRun, Turn Signals or any other 12volt powersource, $45 on Ebay. The smoked front corners should be here on Friday.
When I was driving home from Tahoe on Saturday, the volt gauge was reading a bit high and had me a little concerned, but I put a meter on the battery and its got 14.5 volts while idling, so no more worries!

I will try and get some pics soon, cause I know how much most of us want to see pics. Its just ben too dark for my camera/phone.
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Old 11-26-2015, 11:14 AM   #8
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Did you have a bunch of fans or other electrical running in the bus?

14.5 is a overcharge, meaning you have a power drain somewhere.

This will burn up your alternator, and boil your battery to death.

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Old 11-26-2015, 11:27 PM   #9
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Did you have a bunch of fans or other electrical running in the bus?

14.5 is a overcharge, meaning you have a power drain somewhere.

This will burn up your alternator, and boil your battery to death.

Nat
Hmm, not sure where your info is coming from. I was taught in automotive school 25 yrs ago and worked as a mechanic for a number of years. But I doubted myself and looked at a few sites, which backed up my memory. Less than 14 is not charging, above 14.7 is cooking the battery.

I did take my measurement on the cold engine during fast warm up, so it is more likely to be down near 14.3 during a warm idle.
But what I really wanted to know was that it wasnt up at the 16volts that the dash gauge was showing
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Old 11-27-2015, 02:22 AM   #10
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14.3 is the threshold I was trained to be correct.

Only if under high load should it be over that.

Sounds like you got it under control. Carry on.

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Old 11-28-2015, 03:07 AM   #11
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Well, my roadtrip from Oakland, CA to Redding, CA (208miles) went well.
I kept it up between 65-70mph most of the way and used a little less than 1/2 of the tank (24.5g of 55gallons) , which netted 8.8mpg. On the way back I kept it down between 60-65mph, the gauge says I used 1/4 tank, but I havent filled it back up yet.

It does seem that the fuel gauge is pretty accurate, which is nice!

On my way home I stopped off at Harbor Freight and got 3 moto wheel chocks.

But I'm still working out what to do with the shop portion of the floor, possibly RhinoLine or maybe checkerboard tile. The seating area, I am considering synthetic wood or maybe just a carpet.

Tomorrow, I am planning to strip the lettering off the outside (prep for paint), change the dash bulbs, and maybe remove the excess seats, if I can drop them off at the Wrecking Yard (nowhere to store them)
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Old 11-29-2015, 09:19 PM   #12
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Yesterday, I got a few friends over to help. We got all the lettering and most of the reflective tape off the rear and left side.

We also got the 5 seats that I wanted removed. 1 seat was already gone when I got it. Now it has 4 double seats and 8feet of cargo room!



Today, I was lazy and only got it swept out and wiped a bunch of gunk down. Then I took measurements of motos and marked up the floor with masking tape & sharpie. I got the wheel chocks set in place, but it might change.


I'm going to remove the half wall behind the driver and move the left side seats forward and increase the legroom for each seat at the same time. Im also thinking I will increase the right side seat legroom. each seat only has 10" of leg room, except the front right has 7.5"!

Via this forum, I found out I do in fact have to paint the bus ASAP. Im going to leave the metal bumper strips black, but repaint in a Satin Black. The cab will also go Satin Black. I will leave the roof White, but I might change where the transition happens. The rest will be painted a dark Satin Grey.
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Old 11-29-2015, 10:40 PM   #13
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RB Rubber Multi-Mat Rolled Rubber, 1/4 in. Thick, Sold by the Foot - For Life Out Here

Check this stuff out for the bike area. Easy to clean-bulletproof + very non slip. I just did my stairs with the stuff.
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Old 11-29-2015, 10:50 PM   #14
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RB Rubber Multi-Mat Rolled Rubber, 1/4 in. Thick, Sold by the Foot - For Life Out Here

Check this stuff out for the bike area. Easy to clean-bulletproof + very non slip. I just did my stairs with the stuff.
That looks like great stuff. I wonder if I can use 3M adhesive to stick it down. I'll have to stop by and look at it. Thanks!
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That looks like great stuff. I wonder if I can use 3M adhesive to stick it down. I'll have to stop by and look at it.
The stuff is pretty heavy + lies real nice on its own. You almost could get away with just plopping it down-or just some threshold moulding.
Check online to see if your local TSC has it-its something thats not in all stores.
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Old 12-01-2015, 02:09 AM   #16
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Got a bunch more layout and cleaning done tonight after work. Decided to flip the 2 front benches, so they face rearward. Which makes it a nicer space.
Also put my dirtbike inside to help see how it fits for loading and such.
Pics soon!
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I put G-Floor Industrial Grade Polyvinyl

in my bus's garage and ramp. No glue required. Perfect fit too 7.5x17'. The link above is from Home Depot, but I ordered mine custom from the manufacturer. Oops, the link is the "commercial grade," Home Depo doesn't sell Industrial grade in 7.5' widths.






Search home Depot's site for "garage flooring." They have a bunch of manufacturers, styles, colors, and sizes.
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Same stuff I used inside my bus. Love that stuff. I glued mine down with the recommended adhesive. I like your build.
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in my bus's garage and ramp. No glue required. Perfect fit too 7.5x17'. The link above is from Home Depot, but I ordered mine custom from the manufacturer. Oops, the link is the "commercial grade," Home Depo doesn't sell Industrial grade in 7.5' widths.






Search home Depot's site for "garage flooring." They have a bunch of manufacturers, styles, colors, and sizes.
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Would have been nice if you found one with a wheel chair lift. Loading bikes would have been easier.
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I am very pleased with the existing flooring... very tough and easy to clean.
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