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09-16-2020, 08:03 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: CA
Posts: 16
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Most reliable engine/transmission?
What Chevy or GMC gas engines and transmissions are the most reliable on the 4 window mini busses?
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09-17-2020, 07:15 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Ashtabula, Ohio
Posts: 1,494
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E 7.3L
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Chevy 6.0L gas engine for the win.
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09-17-2020, 08:35 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,897
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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+1 on the 6.0, the 5.3 and 5.7 are also good engines, but the 6.0 has the power needed to handle pretty much anything you will give a short bus.
the 6.0 is generally paired to the 4L60E and 4L80E transmissions which are both good. some of the newer stuff uses the 6L80E which is good also....
parts are everywhere for the 6.0 engine, and the assocviated transmissions as well.. these are very standard in chevy / GMC vans, pickup trucks of the same years, and such.. lots of aftermarket support also.
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09-17-2020, 11:32 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
+1 on the 6.0, the 5.3 and 5.7 are also good engines, but the 6.0 has the power needed to handle pretty much anything you will give a short bus.
the 6.0 is generally paired to the 4L60E and 4L80E transmissions which are both good. some of the newer stuff uses the 6L80E which is good also....
parts are everywhere for the 6.0 engine, and the assocviated transmissions as well.. these are very standard in chevy / GMC vans, pickup trucks of the same years, and such.. lots of aftermarket support also.
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hell I've even towed loads with a 4.8 GM and had NO issue at all.
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09-17-2020, 11:51 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Eastern Shore of VA and Fleming County, KY
Posts: 151
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
hell I've even towed loads with a 4.8 GM and had NO issue at all.
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Was that in Florida, or in some mountains? My experience differs in the mountains of MD and WV.
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09-17-2020, 01:13 PM
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#6
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bp1791-unleashed
Was that in Florida, or in some mountains? My experience differs in the mountains of MD and WV.
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Obviously I don't drive in mountains. But I've pulled loads with 4.8, 5.3, and 6.0 and wouldn't really be put off by either of the smaller offerings.
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09-17-2020, 02:21 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2014
Location: West Ohio
Posts: 3,829
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I'm impressed with the torque of the 8.1 chevy engine too. I'm not sure if they were available in the cutaway chassis though. The ford 6.8 v10 is a pretty strong runner if you get a later one that doesn't spit out the spark plugs.
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09-17-2020, 11:39 PM
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#8
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: CA
Posts: 16
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what does 4L60E stand for?
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09-18-2020, 12:09 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Victoreagrace23
what does 4L60E stand for?
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Other than the 4 for 4 speed and the E for electronic, they really don't stand for anything. Just a number designation they gave it. It's a renamed electronic version of the TH700R4.
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09-18-2020, 05:13 AM
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Traveling
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,302
Year: None
Coachwork: None
Chassis: None
Engine: None
Rated Cap: None
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Victoreagrace23
what does 4L60E stand for?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Other than the 4 for 4 speed and the E for electronic, they really don't stand for anything. Just a number designation they gave it. It's a renamed electronic version of the TH700R4.
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Actually...
4 - 4 speed
L - Longitudinal (as opposed to T for Transverse)
60 - Strength rating (Not sure how this correlates to GVWR, however)
E - Electronic control
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09-18-2020, 08:06 AM
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#11
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,897
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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cheese wagon pretty much has it.. strength is relative..
both the 4L60E and 4L80E are great tranasmissions..
back in the day there was always the debate since the 1960s / 70s. oif whetber the TH350 or TH400 transmission was stronger.. over the years people built both to be quiite strong and reliable..
the progression was TH400 was the base for the TH700R4 which became the 4L60 which became the 4L60E
the TH400 was the base for the modern 4L80E
and then came the 6L80 / 90 which is a 6 speed version.. the van chassis started getting these around 2010 or so.. some of the cars got it a few years before..
all these in my opinion are great transmissions and have a lot of update support.. specialty transmission shops everywhere make their living rebuilding and updating these units.. not because they fail a lot but because there are just so many of them out there...
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