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09-19-2019, 08:32 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 2
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Reliable Engine?
Hi!
I'm new here and I'm finally ready to pull the trigger and make my first buy! I'm considering a 2006 Collins MFSAB(?) 4.8 liter Vortec V8 on a mini 9 passenger bus with 68,000 on it. Asking 9,000. Safety inspection completed . Are these reliable engines? Any input on whether or not this sounds like a good buy will be much appreciated!!
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09-19-2019, 09:02 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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My general rule is if you're looking for a reliable bus that will last you for years, you're not looking for one with a gas engine. There are some exceptions both directions.
With that said, I have no first hand experience with that engine. I also haven't really seen it in use outside of light duty pickups and SUVs. Personally I would avoid it.
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09-19-2019, 09:22 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,762
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
My general rule is if you're looking for a reliable bus that will last you for years, you're not looking for one with a gas engine. There are some exceptions both directions.
With that said, I have no first hand experience with that engine. I also haven't really seen it in use outside of light duty pickups and SUVs. Personally I would avoid it.
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In a van chassis a good late model gas engine is about as good as it gets. The 4.8 won't win any races but I've pulled huge loads with them. I'd hold out for a 6.0 at that kinda asking price.
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09-19-2019, 09:23 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,762
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bud19
Hi!
I'm new here and I'm finally ready to pull the trigger and make my first buy! I'm considering a 2006 Collins MFSAB(?) 4.8 liter Vortec V8 on a mini 9 passenger bus with 68,000 on it. Asking 9,000. Safety inspection completed . Are these reliable engines? Any input on whether or not this sounds like a good buy will be much appreciated!!
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Sounds like full retail price for a used van with a little more interior room.
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09-19-2019, 10:18 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 2
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Ok thanks for all the input! I'm going to keep looking.
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09-21-2019, 04:49 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 819
Year: 1993
Chassis: IH 3800
Engine: DT360
Rated Cap: 66
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Price is high for a gasser but the engine in question is a solid performer. Seen countless engines of that generation with 250+k on the clock and no major failures.
That being said.. the price is steep. For that price, you could have a low mileage diesel bus.
Personally, I'd be looking for a shorty with a 7.3 powerstroke, 5.9 12v cummins, or 6.5 chevy (all van chassis). If its a legit short school bus.. a DT360 or DT466 would be a great find... but the same engines I listed above would do just as well.
Good luck on your search!
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09-25-2019, 04:49 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr4btTahoe
Personally, I'd be looking for a shorty with a 7.3 powerstroke, 5.9 12v cummins, or 6.5 chevy (all van chassis). If its a legit short school bus.. a DT360 or DT466 would be a great find... but the same engines I listed above would do just as well.
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This. Picked up a 2003 7.3 turbo diesel (last year made before they gutted diesels due to emissions (like the Ford 6.0 POS)) 5 window shortie w/180k miles for $3000.
Flash forward 6 months and ~5k miles and I do not regret it. Plenty of power, bulletproof engine.
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09-25-2019, 05:42 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Foot of the siskiyou mountains Oregon.
Posts: 222
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Thomas / international
Chassis: International
Engine: Dt 360/ spicer 5 speed
Rated Cap: 42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr4btTahoe
Price is high for a gasser but the engine in question is a solid performer. Seen countless engines of that generation with 250+k on the clock and no major failures.
That being said.. the price is steep. For that price, you could have a low mileage diesel bus.
Personally, I'd be looking for a shorty with a 7.3 powerstroke, 5.9 12v cummins, or 6.5 chevy (all van chassis). If its a legit short school bus.. a DT360 or DT466 would be a great find... but the same engines I listed above would do just as well.
Good luck on your search!
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I have never seen a 5.9, or any Cummins engine, in a van/cutaway chassis. I honestly don't think they exist. Someone tell me otherwise
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09-25-2019, 05:45 PM
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#9
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Foot of the siskiyou mountains Oregon.
Posts: 222
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Thomas / international
Chassis: International
Engine: Dt 360/ spicer 5 speed
Rated Cap: 42
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I'll
Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
In a van chassis a good late model gas engine is about as good as it gets. The 4.8 won't win any races but I've pulled huge loads with them. I'd hold out for a 6.0 at that kinda asking price.
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Dang, the 4.8 must really be a pos if yr holding out for a 6.0. (I know many will disagree lol)I assume we're are talking gas engines here. I personally would take a 7.3l/t444 or go with a gas engine in a cutaway. 4.8 is a little small but Chevy engines have always been pretty durable. My ¢2;p
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09-25-2019, 05:58 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,762
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SolomonEagle
I have never seen a 5.9, or any Cummins engine, in a van/cutaway chassis. I honestly don't think they exist. Someone tell me otherwise
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Not in a van. But I think he meant look at shorties with the engines he listed regardless of chassis type.
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