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12-15-2017, 09:53 AM
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#381
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 386
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ECCB that defective tape is stronger than the stuff they use in nascar
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12-15-2017, 04:53 PM
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#382
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,715
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Haha, well I got rid of the rest of them, the driver's side.
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12-15-2017, 04:58 PM
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#383
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,715
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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The only decal remaining is the large "SCHOOL BUS" above the windshield.
May knock that out in a little while or just do it tomorrow.
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12-15-2017, 05:01 PM
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#384
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,715
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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My helper and bus driver extraordinaire, Shaun-
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12-15-2017, 05:04 PM
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#385
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,715
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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While prepping for paint, I'm gonna shop for some clean 22.5x7.5 ball seat alloys for this thing. Think some shined up decent used alloys on the front and outer rears would really make a nice new paint job pop.
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12-15-2017, 06:52 PM
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#386
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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It's looking good. Weird how some places take all the school wording off before you get it but they let you guys drive all that way. I think the lettering does help with the invisibility of buses.
I'm jealous of your engine accessibility.
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Nobody's Business
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12-15-2017, 06:55 PM
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#387
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,715
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin97396
It's looking good. Weird how some places take all the school wording off before you get it but they let you guys drive all that way. I think the lettering does help with the invisibility of buses.
I'm jealous of your engine accessibility.
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FL really doesn't care as long as your tag is current. School bus yellow is legal here, too!
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12-15-2017, 07:15 PM
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#388
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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I wasn't talking about the yellow. Here you're not allowed to have the school bus wording, anywhere, on a decomissioned bus. That's what I meant by it helping to keep you invisible during the interstate drive home.
Most of the bus people I meet here still have yellow buses. I just didn't want to be yellow out in the woods. Other drivers are definitely less tolerant now that I'm all painted. Weird.
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Nobody's Business
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12-15-2017, 07:36 PM
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#389
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,340
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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I learned in Ohio that the law is "flawed".. written way back when it omnly states that "church busses" have to be painted away friom yellow and have the school lights covered up...
my guess is the law was written when 99.9% of old school busses were sold to churches... I mightve kept the DEV completely original... as a school bus..
-Christopher
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12-15-2017, 07:38 PM
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#390
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,715
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Josh and Hillary are arriving tomorrow. I'm hoping he can help shine some light on my electrical problem.
When do you think you'll be back down this way? Would be nice to get a photo of all the shorties together.
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12-16-2017, 01:20 PM
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#391
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Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 110
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
The only decal remaining is the large "SCHOOL BUS" above the windshield.
May knock that out in a little while or just do it tomorrow.
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ECCB, I have the option to purchase this bus. Does anyone know anything about it? Thomas Bus with Cummins 8.3 motor. Looks similar to yours. 
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12-16-2017, 01:40 PM
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#392
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Tempe, AZ
Posts: 66
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Chevy Midbus
Engine: GM 6.5 Turbo Diesel
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Quote:
Originally Posted by debbiejay4444
ECCB, I have the option to purchase this bus. Does anyone know anything about it? Thomas Bus with Cummins 8.3 motor. Looks similar to yours. 
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An 8.3 in a bus that short would be wild.. and unlikely. Can you get the VIN #?
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12-16-2017, 02:10 PM
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#393
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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That would not be a slow bus. If that bus is in good shape you won't likely be disappointed.
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Nobody's Business
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12-16-2017, 04:05 PM
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#394
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,715
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Make SURE its an 8.3. Never seen one in a bus that size. That would be AWESOME!
I got some bad news today. Fired up the bus, and ten minutes into running I saw coolant pooling under the passenger side front of the engine. Above the waterpump. Behind the alternator, under the thermostat housing. I'm 99.9% sure that the culprit is the front engine cover aka timing cover. The spot where the leak is coming from would be right where the coolani inlet and outlet to the block are.
Anyone replaced this before? Looks do-able but like a huge job.
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12-16-2017, 05:35 PM
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#395
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Your luck is still holding out, because this coolant problem didn't occur on the trip from TX.
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Nobody's Business
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12-16-2017, 05:47 PM
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#396
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,715
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin97396
Your luck is still holding out, because this coolant problem didn't occur on the trip from TX.
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Exactly! 
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12-16-2017, 05:59 PM
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#397
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Swansboro,NC
Posts: 2,901
Year: 86
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
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Sorry man I don't know your engine.?
To me the thermostat housing and the water pump housing is and should be seperate from the timing chain itself and its cover?
Unless your water pump,thermostat housing and timing chain are cast as one piece which might have been an idea but never should have been produced?(my opinion)
Not suggesting it but I have seen mechanics back the bolts out enough to seperate the flanges off of whatever without removing anything. Then they would cut/slot the bolt holes to the inside and snip the bottom(cause that's where the leak will show) clean the fragments off and slip the new gaskets in with a lot of high temp silicone/gasket maker?
I don't do that but I would start with the thermostat housing and thermostat and not the timing chain cover.
If your water pump is above/around/over the timing chain cover then I would look at the weep hole in the bottom of the water pump. If it is that then the radiator fan could be blowing the coolant back onto the top of the timing chain cover and running down?
Good luck
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12-16-2017, 06:01 PM
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#398
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Swansboro,NC
Posts: 2,901
Year: 86
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
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Need pics to help?
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12-16-2017, 09:28 PM
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#399
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,715
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly Roger bus 223
Sorry man I don't know your engine.?
To me the thermostat housing and the water pump housing is and should be seperate from the timing chain itself and its cover?
Unless your water pump,thermostat housing and timing chain are cast as one piece which might have been an idea but never should have been produced?(my opinion)
Not suggesting it but I have seen mechanics back the bolts out enough to seperate the flanges off of whatever without removing anything. Then they would cut/slot the bolt holes to the inside and snip the bottom(cause that's where the leak will show) clean the fragments off and slip the new gaskets in with a lot of high temp silicone/gasket maker?
I don't do that but I would start with the thermostat housing and thermostat and not the timing chain cover.
If your water pump is above/around/over the timing chain cover then I would look at the weep hole in the bottom of the water pump. If it is that then the radiator fan could be blowing the coolant back onto the top of the timing chain cover and running down?
Good luck
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Its not the water pump, that's solid and working, no leaks there. Not the thermostat housing. Its the top left corner of the front engine cover, which directs the water to the block from the pump.
Here's a pic from google, you can see where the water pump mounts to the lower left and the coolant goes up to the block through a channel, and back through another channel next to it. The gasket can fail allowing coolant to leak out or into the other areas of the timing cover.
here's what the backside of a 466 front cover looks like-
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12-17-2017, 05:38 AM
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#400
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Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: ocala FL.
Posts: 143
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: international
Engine: t444e
Rated Cap: short
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Eccb
Hope you get it softed out atleast yor are home and not on the road. Does your bus have a split radiator/inter cooler?
Thanks Joe
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