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05-15-2018, 08:39 PM
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#1241
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Run for mayor
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05-15-2018, 08:49 PM
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#1242
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,001
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
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sounds like you need to talk to a lawyer, or the state attorney general, since the land is already commercial, I do not see how they can tell you you need a permit to rent it out
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05-24-2018, 07:40 AM
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#1243
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Still no word from the city.
I'm down for a day or two with some sort of cold or something.
Bus has been sitting where Kubla parked it at the wedding. Will throw the tag on it and take it for a spin this weekend.
Later this year or early next year we'll have the money to REALLY get this bus going.
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05-24-2018, 12:54 PM
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#1244
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Well let me know when you turn that lot into a bus yard, then we can start bidding on those big lots of scrap busses! Just think of the fun you could have with 30-40 parts busses
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05-24-2018, 01:00 PM
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#1245
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whatthefak
Well let me know when you turn that lot into a bus yard, then we can start bidding on those big lots of scrap busses! Just think of the fun you could have with 30-40 parts busses
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That would be awesome!
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05-24-2018, 01:05 PM
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#1246
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Well you better put a wrecker hook on your bus so we can get em there.
Probably could even make a few bucks putting a couple back on the road and parting out some
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05-24-2018, 01:09 PM
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#1247
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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So there are 40 going for 28k
95 going for 38k
Seems like buying in bulk gets you a deal
Lol how much room ya got
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05-24-2018, 01:28 PM
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#1248
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whatthefak
So there are 40 going for 28k
95 going for 38k
Seems like buying in bulk gets you a deal
Lol how much room ya got
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only an acre. But I'm fighting the city over its "historical significance".
We've owned this lot since 1908. BEFORE the city was even there.
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05-24-2018, 01:32 PM
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#1249
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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It's an empty lot?
How historical can your dirt be?
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05-24-2018, 01:33 PM
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#1250
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whatthefak
So there are 40 going for 28k
95 going for 38k
Seems like buying in bulk gets you a deal
Lol how much room ya got
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The small lot is $700/ea, the larger lot is $400/ea. Now figure in the cost of moving 40-95 buses 500 miles and storage cost and location for that many buses. I've thought of doing the same, but it's a huge project to take on. You're $50k in before you start recouping anything.
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05-24-2018, 01:40 PM
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#1251
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whatthefak
It's an empty lot?
How historical can your dirt be?
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Well- I did mention the city of Leesburg is super corrupt, right?
They don't want this lot used or fenced because of their super corrupt "leesburg bikefest" that they make millions off of every year. Our lot is right in the middle of it and its a HUGE event.
So they think our dirt is SUPER HISTORIC lol.
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05-24-2018, 01:47 PM
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#1252
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Sweet can we invite a bunch of my biker trash family and friends to camp there for bike fest?
It'd probably change there mind about the fence, if for nothing but to keep them in
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05-24-2018, 01:52 PM
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#1253
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whatthefak
Sweet can we invite a bunch of my biker trash family and friends to camp there for bike fest?
It'd probably change there mind about the fence, if for nothing but to keep them in
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LOL that is really funny!
I could always invite some of my dad's side of my family to stay in some dilapidated trailers. Its zoned residential/commercial. lol
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05-24-2018, 02:22 PM
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#1254
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Junk bus village!!!!!
Scrap busses as tiny homes or hotel
Give ya some thing to do with that lot of scrap busses
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06-05-2018, 07:20 AM
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#1255
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Spent the day yesterday talking to Efren, who knows diesels. He asked for my engine serial number and apparently my number is no good or somehow invalid.
Maybe that would explain why the dealer I took it to kept trying to sell me parts for an EGR engine despite mine not having the EGR. I guess they were just using the vin which shows a 2004. But the engine in my bus is a leftover 03. 03 chassis with an 04 body.
He's gonna email a friend of his at a dealer near him and try to find out whats up with my serial number.
I LOVE this forum.
Who knows, maybe I'll have a fully functional bus this summer!
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06-05-2018, 07:35 AM
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#1256
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,758
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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shame on that navistar dealer, they should be working off the VIN.. its also possible that the engine was swapped. though mot likely.. a real navi dealer should be able to see what engine serial number was shipped in your bus..
the VIN should show the correct parts for it.. if its not either that dealer was a scheister and trying to feed you a bill of goods, or their computers are wrong..
its real common for the chassis and bus years to be different. the bus gets titled by the body year but chassis parts are by chassis year, however thats why the dealer asks for VIN as it **SHOULD** not matter the titled-year as their computers are supposed to work off of the as-built for that chassis..
I use Rush truck out of columbus ohio. and they have been fantastic to me thus far in getting me the correct parts.. even for my old carpenter.
-Christopher
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06-05-2018, 09:28 AM
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#1257
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
shame on that navistar dealer, they should be working off the VIN.. its also possible that the engine was swapped. though mot likely.. a real navi dealer should be able to see what engine serial number was shipped in your bus..
the VIN should show the correct parts for it.. if its not either that dealer was a scheister and trying to feed you a bill of goods, or their computers are wrong..
its real common for the chassis and bus years to be different. the bus gets titled by the body year but chassis parts are by chassis year, however thats why the dealer asks for VIN as it **SHOULD** not matter the titled-year as their computers are supposed to work off of the as-built for that chassis..
I use Rush truck out of columbus ohio. and they have been fantastic to me thus far in getting me the correct parts.. even for my old carpenter.
-Christopher
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There's some sort of glitch. My engine is original for sure, but the S/N isn't valid or something.
Maybe someone didn't enter some piece of data long ago, idk.
I'll hopefully be finding out more today.
But with an air compressor on its way out, a leaky hpop, leaky pan gasket, leaky rear main, and that oil/coolant vapor coming out of the blowby tube I can't help but wonder if another engine would be money better spent. Its got 226k miles and a questionable history as we found out later on.
With all the corrosion that's been caused in the timing covers I have a fear that a liner seal is probably next. And the injectors can't have a ton of life left in them at this mileage.
If I could fix this cheap then its definitely got some good miles left in it, idk... Its so hard to decide.
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06-05-2018, 10:39 AM
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#1258
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,758
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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turbo to oil pan 466E I think is around 13k.. ready to fly, drop it on and go.. wont include your air compressor, thats a bolt on driven by the front gear train on yours. does give you new injectors. (same computer).
https://65ldiesel.com/product/intern...omplete-reman/
Long Block is much less.. which should give you everything that sounds bad on your current one..
https://65ldiesel.com/product/intern...ed-long-block/
the 444E is 8500 for a drop in.. alas why so many schools bought those.. they saved some coin.. of course in my opinion over-all the 466E is twice the motor that a 444E is..
-Christopher
P.S. I pretty much took this route with my transmission project last year.. rather than mess with fixing my 545 or buying used pieces I just went new even though it cost more.. just for peace of mind knowing I rack up miles on my bus more than most drive their cars in 2 years..
if you plan to bee-bop around florida for little one or 2 night camping trips id probably find a good used unit and drop in.. but if you plan to take off and run the country in the near future and travel the bus lots.. I might consider replacing with a reman motor..
P.S.S. - when my 444E flies apart in pieces eventually, this is the route ill take...
-Christopher
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06-05-2018, 10:49 AM
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#1259
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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I've found a new longblock reman for $6700 thats got the turbo and injectors. I'd need a new ECM because its a HT block. But if I am gonna spend that kinda dough I may as well get a few extra ponies if I can.
So would a HT block and HT ECM be all I'd need?
I realize that its gona be at the upper limits of what my trans can handle, but I don't plan on hammering it and if/when the trans goes that's a piece of cake to upgrade/replace compared to the engine.
What say ye?
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06-05-2018, 02:45 PM
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#1260
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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You can always buy one of the rust buckets up here, even with fuel home you'd still be 3k or so
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