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[Defjr333]

I think we are all hoping to see pics of you with the bus out and about. I know I cant wait to see you start the actual build out. What were the dimensions of this one internally compared to your old one? I like stealing ideas
Doug

[EastCoastCB]

Originally Posted by Defjr333

I think we are all hoping to see pics of you with the bus out and about. I know I cant wait to see you start the actual build out. What were the dimensions of this one internally compared to your old one? I like stealing ideas
Doug

Thanks!
Its a foot or two shorter than the last one. I guess there's 13 feet or so behind the drivers seat. I'll have to measure it once I get it back.
The build will be pretty basic and simple. Next phase of demo is the floor, I think.

[Brewerbob]

Originally Posted by cadillackid

I know on a personal level im Kicking my own arse for ditching my place in florida.. for one with all the cool skoolie gatherings and bus building you guys are doing it could be a lot of fun!!
-Christopher

I was wondering how long it would be until I heard this.

Originally Posted by cadillackid

darn govt emplyees have more days off in a year than ive had the last 10 years lol

-Christopher

Getting kicked out of the office early today because the govies get to leave an hour early and get paid for it.

Originally Posted by EastCoastCB

80 would only be for passing or extremely fast sections of Atlanta freeway etc.
But having passing power in a bus is a REAL LUXURY.

Or the Tail of the Dragon!!

Originally Posted by Defjr333

MAYBE i will have made up my damn mind by then and actually be building mine
Im not near the coast unfort......im 20 mins from Skyline Drive( to west)45 mins from DC(to North). Almost dead center between I-81 and I-95. But any schoolie people travel nearby are welcome. The church behind me have given me permission to park there once I buy one. They have a HUGE fenced/ barbed wire parking behind church. So atleast somewhere to park.
Doug

That's not a bad place to be.

Originally Posted by Robin97396

I also thought everybody would laugh, but JB weld has saved my but more than a few times.

You've not met my dad. I can tell you that JB Weld doesn't work on outboard driveshafts. Square peg in a round hole. He decided to fill it with JB and just shove the shafts together. He didn't bother to tell me any of that when I borrowed his boat. He was smart enough to not be on board during the maiden voyage. I made it about 10 feet from the dock before it came apart. I was not a happy camper.

Originally Posted by EastCoastCB

Don't tempt me!

I'd need a trans upgrade, too.

MD3060!! Or any chance of a Crown 10 speed?

Originally Posted by EastCoastCB

This is definitely a stupid design!


If its really bad and the inner cover is shot, I can get a rebuilt engine for about a grand or two more than paying for the repair on this one.

No, the stupid part is you can buy a reman engine for teh same as a couple of fancy AL plates. That's just plain wrong.

Originally Posted by cadillackid

navistar part number 1850155C92 is a kit of 26 tablets you put in your coolant.. 20 of them for a normal vehicle, 26 for a large cooling system like a bus .. it specifically states to use it only once even if you change your coolant dont apply it again.. and that it does not invalidate any warranty and is designed as a lasting repair...

-Christopher

That sounds worse than JB Weld. Talk about a bandaid.

Originally Posted by Mr4btTahoe

Can the cover be repaired (as in cleaned and TIGed)? At that point, it would just be labor and gaskets/seals. I've seen timing covers repaired/welded many times and never have an issue out of them.

That's what I was wondering.

Originally Posted by EastCoastCB

THIS is what I want my bus to look like!

You guys are some sick puppies!! We'll have to agree to disagree on chrome and skoolies.

Originally Posted by EastCoastCB

No fire, but we have the heat going. Its like 60 out!

18° when I stopped working on the bus last night.

Originally Posted by Defjr333

Fired the finance minister here 6 years back. Kept being told finances dont work for this or that. Now I roll like the US, spend till your done(then eat ramen)

MERICA

Doug

Mine kept spending even after the money ran out. Also fired. But said I should have stuck around to pay down the bills. Yeah, why exactly would I want to do that?

Originally Posted by cadillackid

gonna make a BIG PAN of 7 layer lasagne with a cracklin wood fire!!
-Christopher

I had a restaurant deep 1/4 pan ... 5 " deep I think. Pretty sure the ex-Finanace Minister took it. Grrr. I need another one.

[EastCoastCB]

Still no word from the shop.
Man the wait is killing me!

[Jolly Roger bus 223]

Thought you weren't going to rush them.
I know?
What the hell else are they replacing and charging me for without calling me first?
Not bus related but I made a dealership undo a lot of extra stuff they did just because they didn't communicate with my wife or I ended up getting the hard stuff for free cause it cost them more to take it out and put the old stuff back in.
All I said was why didn't you tell us about it before you did it.
Went in for a factory recall and a 50$ oil change and I owed 300$ to get it back and that was with me at work and the dealer shuttle didn't pick my wife up when called where they dropped her off so she walked 2-miles back to the dealer and they wanted 300 instead of 50-55$.
Then she got it home and didn't notice it had lost some oil because the oil cap was never put back on.guess where I went.
I always check the work of others because my wife and my son have been screwed before.
Unless we do it ourselves.
When you do get it back. You need to know exactly what coolant they put in it and check it cause I can almost guarantee after a good ride down the road that it will be low.
Wish you good luck

[EastCoastCB]

I haven't rushed them.
Just because I'M anxious doesn't mean I've lost patience. I didn't call them today, I'm just waiting to hear from them.

I'm wondering what coolant they'll use.
I'd imagine they use the red stuff, but I have no idea. I've read that the best coolant for these engines is the "yellow stuff from Shell".

[Jolly Roger bus 223]

You might just need to stop buy there and check on what they are doing.
Most mechanics don't care about someone that has a specific purpose(your bus) walking in to see WTF.
The office will probably say NO and if you insist an escort.
I usually just drive (behind my bus ) up like I know where I am going and walk in there and if it's in the lot then I will pull my truck/car up to it nose to nose and walk straight into the mechanics bay and ask the first one I see what is going on with that one.
As long as you act(safety wise) that you have been and can do there job but ain't set up for it at home? Most mechanics will walk you through and tell you what the hell.
If you get one that's a butthead then walk out of the bay door that you went in and walk to the office door and say I just talked to butthead mechanic and I will not except his work on my vehicle?

[Defjr333]

Originally Posted by EastCoastCB

They're open 7am till midnight, so pickup time should be easy enough to arrange.

Sounds like a midnight run to me!!
Doug

[EastCoastCB]

Originally Posted by Defjr333

Sounds like a midnight run to me!!
Doug

Thing is, its in one of the WORST areas of orlando. Downtown in the ghetto. Late night pickup would be interesting to say the least.
Plus I've got no heater or marker lights, or wipers... etc. Till I get the new solenoid in the mail. Plus I'll want to look it over and check for leaks so I think a daytime pickup is gonna be best.

[Twigg]

Originally Posted by EastCoastCB

Thing is, its in one of the WORST areas of orlando. Downtown in the ghetto. Late night pickup would be interesting to say the least.
Plus I've got no heater or marker lights, or wipers... etc. Till I get the new solenoid in the mail. Plus I'll want to look it over and check for leaks so I think a daytime pickup is gonna be best.

... but ... but ... but ... we're all waiting!

[Defjr333]

Originally Posted by Twigg

... but ... but ... but ... we're all waiting!

GET OUT OF MY HEAD Oopps.....I mean, Take your time CB, just hoping it turns out well 4 u!
Doug

[WanderWoman]

Originally Posted by cadillackid

lovin that gray color on sandy's bus!.. hope the roof will be white though being in florida?

those busses look real similar.
-Christopher

I'm missing that bus while I'm in Cali, but I know it's in the best hands
The roof will definitely be white.

[EastCoastCB]

Tried calling a few times this morning, but I guess no one's there today. Sent the service mgr an email.
Ugh.
Edit- He says he'll have them call me.

[EastCoastCB]

Originally Posted by debbiejay4444

Robin, you said that I believed in unicorns! I'm so excited that I made a good choice. $4,600, no auction. No rust, diesel, great shape. I'm in love with it!

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

Any pics of this unicorn?

[EastCoastCB]

They called me back.
Needs new inner and outer timing covers, oil pump, and water pump. I told them I'll do the water pump and just to re-use the old one with a new gasket. I know that water pump is good enough for now, and I can do it in fifteen minutes myself. Its one of the easiest water pumps to replace.
They haven't got anyone there today to finish writing up the estimate, so I won't know anything more till tuesday.
What a crappy design for that front timing cover!

So- anyone wanna bet on what it'll cost?
I'm guessing 5 grand?

[cadillackid]

yukkers!! that ,eans pulling the head I believe!. at least from what the service manual looks like.. the Cam has to come out.. wonder how they came upon the oil pump being bad without pulling it apart??

only way to check that is to measure its clearances..

if the oil pressure is just lower than it should be then there are a whole host of other possible causes for that of which the oil pump can be a factor but not always..
-Christopher

[EastCoastCB]

Originally Posted by cadillackid

yukkers!! that ,eans pulling the head I believe!. at least from what the service manual looks like.. the Cam has to come out.. wonder how they came upon the oil pump being bad without pulling it apart??

only way to check that is to measure its clearances..

if the oil pressure is just lower than it should be then there are a whole host of other possible causes for that of which the oil pump can be a factor but not always..
-Christopher

I'm pretty sure they just do the oil pump while they're in there rather than button it back up with the old one. Fine by me. One less thing to worry about.
If the head is gonna come off, then the head gasket will have to be replaced, so that's one less thing to worry about.
But I wonder if while the head is off, how much $$$ it would be to go ahead and put new orings on the sleeves. Probably unnecessary but I'm curious and would like to replace everything the old coolant came into contact with.

[Twigg]

Originally Posted by cadillackid

wonder how they came upon the oil pump being bad without pulling it apart??


-Christopher

Probably makes sense to change it if they are in there. They are not particularly expensive, unless they break

I wouldn't see that as a dealership creating "busy work" just to charge for it.

[EastCoastCB]

Originally Posted by Twigg

Probably makes sense to change it if they are in there. They are not particularly expensive, unless they break

I wouldn't see that as a dealership creating "busy work" just to charge for it.

With who knows how many miles on it I was going to insist they used a new or reman pump set.
I couldn't find much info about this stuff on the web, but what I did find seemed to indicate that they always put in a new oil pump with this type of repair.
Since the air compressor is driven off a gear in there, I wonder if it has to come out. A reman is only $350 + core so if I could get them to swap the compressor for parts cost that would be awesome.

[cadillackid]

True that just like I changed my oil pump this past spring since I had the whole bus in pieces anyway. , it can’t hurt and diesels need to oil well.

This is an issue I never knew affected these engines so late in the game. Thought it was mainly a late 90s issue, very engine has its Achilles .. and we find a lot of those Achilles here since our busses are all used