 |
|
05-14-2018, 08:52 PM
|
#1
|
Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 13
|
Rusty The Micro Bird
Meet rusty aka russ
|
|
|
05-14-2018, 09:29 PM
|
#2
|
Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Ashtabula, Ohio
Posts: 1,494
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E 7.3L
|
What are the plans?
|
|
|
05-15-2018, 09:30 AM
|
#3
|
Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 13
|
REPAIRS:
He’s getting new brake pads now, after that I hit the road for a cross country trip from Maine to the build spot in Colorado! Note: this guy has the 2004 e450 6.0L diesel engine, which gets a lot of bad press, but luckily the previous owner had the inspection records so I felt good rolling the dice, and so far so good.
PRE-ROAD TRIP WORK:
Still unclear on whether I need to paint before that. Might do the seat removal here too, since I have an excited bunch and it would save a little weight on the long drive.
FLOOR PLANS AND LAYOUT:
I drew up some tentative plans, but was pleasantly surprised to learn the interior length is longer than I had estimated using the 30 inch per window rule of thumb, so I’ll get to revise. It's more like 13.3 (passenger side) to 14.5 feet (driver side) in length. Here are the old ones, very open to ideas / criticism.
Also thinking of adding back porch and roof deck with help of a welding friend.
|
|
|
05-15-2018, 12:37 PM
|
#4
|
Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Damascus, OR
Posts: 681
Year: 2004
Chassis: International
Engine: T444e w/ 2000 Allison Trans
Rated Cap: 35
|
welcome.
no fridge? looks nice. have a safe drive
|
|
|
05-16-2018, 11:29 AM
|
#5
|
Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 13
|
Definitely considering a fridge for a phase 2 or 3 of the build, and with the extra space I will have to update these schematics. Goal right now is to try to get Russ turned around in time for a few short road trips this summer, so for that a cooler will do.
|
|
|
05-16-2018, 12:26 PM
|
#6
|
Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Damascus, OR
Posts: 681
Year: 2004
Chassis: International
Engine: T444e w/ 2000 Allison Trans
Rated Cap: 35
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadman
Definitely considering a fridge for a phase 2 or 3 of the build, and with the extra space I will have to update these schematics. Goal right now is to try to get Russ turned around in time for a few short road trips this summer, so for that a cooler will do.
|
I hear you about phases.... I wake up in the middle of the night thinking about what order I need to do things and a what point I will add things. The wife asked me when the bus will be finished, I told her never. I will always be doing something to it I suppose, but I would like to get it trip worthy sooner than later!
|
|
|
05-16-2018, 05:31 PM
|
#7
|
Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 13
|
Quote:
The wife asked me when the bus will be finished, I told her never.
|
Quote:
Art is never finished, only abandoned. -DaVinci -Nomadman
|
DEMO DAY 1: Sear Removal
Went at the seats with a cheap angle grinder from harbor freight. Smooth sailing. The longest part of the day was stopping constantly for photo shoots with the helpers. Now we’ve got some space to operate!
|
|
|
05-16-2018, 05:34 PM
|
#8
|
Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: NY,NY
Posts: 16
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner ER
Engine: Cummins 8.3 Mechanical (6CT)
Rated Cap: 80
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadman
DEMO DAY 1: Sear Removal
Went at the seats with a cheap angle grinder from harbor freight. Smooth sailing. The longest part of the day was stopping constantly for photo shoots with the helpers. Now we’ve got some space to operate!
|
Congrats on the seat removal! By far one of the best parts is feeling how much space you have once it's empty.
Be careful with that driver...I don't think he's licensed...
|
|
|
05-16-2018, 06:10 PM
|
#9
|
Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mydogisgreat
Congrats on the seat removal! By far one of the best parts is feeling how much space you have once it's empty.
Be careful with that driver...I don't think he's licensed...
|
He actually has an unneeded CDL, Commercial Dog License.
|
|
|
05-16-2018, 07:07 PM
|
#10
|
Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Vashon, Washington
Posts: 57
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird / Microbird
Chassis: Chevy 3500
Engine: Chevy Vortec 6.0 gas
Rated Cap: 30
|
Nice bus!
I’ve got a 2003 MicroBird, Chevy 3500 gasser.
(Everyone slams the gassers, I know. Whatever.)
For whatever reason, the first two windows (from the front) are wider than the other three.
I can’t see your floor plan on this tiny phone screen, but I’ll check it out later on my computer.
Good luck & have fun!
|
|
|
05-18-2018, 07:56 AM
|
#11
|
Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 13
|
Got rear ended outside of Brooklyn yesterday. Wondering what the best recourse is, considering my transit plates only allow 10 days to get back. Going to try to get an estimate today. For those who have added a “back porch” platform, would this present a problem?
|
|
|
05-18-2018, 08:18 AM
|
#12
|
Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,326
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
|
make the hitter fix the bus... will get your rust fixed too!
make the hitter buy you new plates too! for the trip home.. or drive it home and get it fixed there..
or did they take off?
-Christopher
|
|
|
05-27-2018, 11:59 AM
|
#13
|
Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 13
|
Seats out. Definitely recommend the angle grinder route - $15 electric grinder from harbor freight made quick work of the rusted bolt heads.
Got half of the floor out (not yet pictured). Pretty easy process: remove trim screws, use a crow bar and mallet to pry under the wood to get things started, then use a longer paint scraper to get further under the wood and rip it up. Name of the game is leverage.
Need to figure out what to do about the radiator. Going to search the forums but any ideas? It has two hoses that come from under the bus, one input and one output I presume.
Btw for Denver area folks, I just joined the Denver Took Library and it’s a much better deal than buying tools new or even used.
|
|
|
05-27-2018, 11:26 PM
|
#14
|
Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 13
|
Floor out. Next step rust removal
|
|
|
05-28-2018, 01:11 AM
|
#15
|
Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Greater Boston
Posts: 504
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadman
FLOOR PLANS AND LAYOUT:
I drew up some tentative plans, but was pleasantly surprised to learn the interior length is longer than I had estimated using the 30 inch per window rule of thumb, so I’ll get to revise. It's more like 13.3 (passenger side) to 14.5 feet (driver side) in length. Here are the old ones, very open to ideas / criticism.
|
So you ended up with (roughly) a 7x13 rectangle behind the drivers seat?
That's good to know, that's more then I'd have expected too.
Which was is forward in your drawings?
|
|
|
05-28-2018, 01:13 PM
|
#16
|
Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 13
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark_In_MA
So you ended up with (roughly) a 7x13 rectangle behind the drivers seat?
Which was is forward in your drawings?
|
Yeah, the entry path has a bit of a diagonal, so behind the driver's seat there is more like 14. I will measure again today now that seats are out and I can run a measuring tape more cleanly. But yeah, I was happily surprised.
Forward is at the top of the drawing. I realized now that could be confusing, because the sliding doors at the front could just as easily apply to the rear door.
After driving this guy across country though, I came to rely on the mirror directly above the driver's seat that allows you to look back through the rear windows, so I might be altering the plans a bit to allow a clean line of sight.
|
|
|
05-28-2018, 03:00 PM
|
#17
|
Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Greater Boston
Posts: 504
|
What about installing an always-on backup camera?
The layout might be fluid, but there will still be people and other stuff in the way. A good wide angle camera might help fill in some gaps from the mirrors too.
What's the headroom in Rusty?
One other bit of feedback on your layout - I think a lot of dump stations are set up for the tanks on the left - and a lot of your water looks like it's on the right.
I've got a similar layout I"m thinking for my build (hopefully starting early 2019.)
|
|
|
05-28-2018, 04:35 PM
|
#18
|
Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 13
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark_In_MA
What about installing an always-on backup camera?
|
Not a bad idea. I actually found myself using it while drive forward a lot too though. But you are right about obstacles.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark_In_MA
What's the headroom in Rusty?
|
In the middle, I can stand with my hair grazing the top, and I'm 6'2". On the sides its a little shorter, but not too much. Will try to get exact measurement.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark_In_MA
One other bit of feedback on your layout - I think a lot of dump stations are set up for the tanks on the left - and a lot of your water looks like it's on the right.
|
Ah, great to know! The sides are swappable, so I will do that.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark_In_MA
I've got a similar layout I"m thinking for my build (hopefully starting early 2019.)
|
That's great, link to it when its sketched up, would love to see it.
|
|
|
05-28-2018, 04:39 PM
|
#19
|
Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 13
|
Think I goofed up here.
One of the floor plates seemed to have been corroded through once upon a time, and then treated chemically perhaps. I noticed some rust underneath and white powder, so I started digging it up. Seems like there is another layer below the (aluminum?) floor, only in the section of the bus where the back wheels are. It’s pretty rusty. Plan is to de rust it and put a new aluminum sheet over the cut area. Seems like potentially a wasteful detour - any thoughts from the crowd?
|
|
|
05-28-2018, 04:43 PM
|
#20
|
Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
|
Aluminum in contact with steel will oxidize very rapidly and produce a white powder like what you are seeing. The two metals absolutely MUST be kept isolated/insulated from one another.
|
|
|
 |
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Threads |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|