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Old 12-15-2020, 08:50 PM   #781
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So it sounds like you're keeping it? Glad to hear.
I've had a very tough year. Not just since March. But yeah gonna try to see this one through.
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Saoirse (Irish: [ˈsˠiːɾʲʃə, ˈsˠeːɾʲʃə]; roughly SEER-shə) is an Irish female given name meaning 'freedom', which became popular in Ireland in the 1920s.
The bus is also a unicorn, which happens to be the official animal of Scotland. So this bus shall have a nice Scots-Irish theme.

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Old 12-15-2020, 08:53 PM   #782
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Old 12-15-2020, 08:59 PM   #783
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Old 12-15-2020, 10:49 PM   #784
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I never thought about the fasteners.. but boy you are right it seems like a lot of rust starts around a hole made by a fastener..
I'm sure the hole material was the source on our '09. Most of the rust came off the floor, yet underneath the rust was primer and glue. Plenty of metal flakes still floating around. The drilled holes for the seats and ac had zero rust. Self tappers don't evacuate the material. Same happens to steel roofing if the flakes are left topside by the installers. Our best management practice is to pre-drill/vacuume.

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Old 12-16-2020, 06:18 AM   #785
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I'm sure the hole material was the source on our '09. Most of the rust came off the floor, yet underneath the rust was primer and glue. Plenty of metal flakes still floating around. The drilled holes for the seats and ac had zero rust. Self tappers don't evacuate the material. Same happens to steel roofing if the flakes are left topside by the installers. Our best management practice is to pre-drill/vacuume.

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Very cool!
My wife is a Scot. My granny was Irish.
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Old 12-16-2020, 06:45 AM   #786
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I'm sure the hole material was the source on our '09. Most of the rust came off the floor, yet underneath the rust was primer and glue. Plenty of metal flakes still floating around. The drilled holes for the seats and ac had zero rust. Self tappers don't evacuate the material. Same happens to steel roofing if the flakes are left topside by the installers. Our best management practice is to pre-drill/vacuume.

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interesting.. I never thoiught about it but you are right there never seems to be any shavings with self tappers.. so they all go where? stay in the threads of the fastener?
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Old 12-16-2020, 08:07 AM   #787
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Limited tho my experience with self-tappers is; when I installed 1.5" X 0.5"'s alongside of my hat channels to suspend my ceiling from, the majority of the shavings were *above* the 'tapper's drill bit point, with probably a curl or two winding up in the hole's backside.
I put my large magnet, wrapped in plastic, beneath the pilot point to snag the waste steel as it was ejected.
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interesting.. I never thoiught about it but you are right there never seems to be any shavings with self tappers.. so they all go where? stay in the threads of the fastener?
[Point of interest: I solved any potential unwanted ingress thru the e-hatch with a strip scrap of plywood (as seen to the left)
Not pretty. Likewise not concerned ATM...]IMG_20201216_075434495.jpg
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Old 12-16-2020, 08:14 AM   #788
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Limited tho my experience with self-tappers is; when I installed 1.5" X 0.5"'s alongside of my hat channels to suspend my ceiling from, the majority of the shavings were *above* the 'tapper's drill bit point, with probably a curl or two winding up in the hole's backside.
I put my large magnet, wrapped in plastic, beneath the pilot point to snag the waste steel as it was ejected.
[Point of interest: I solved any potential unwanted ingress thru the e-hatch with a strip scrap of plywood (as seen to the left)
Not pretty. Likewise not concerned ATM...]Attachment 52017
I've really missed you on here lately man. Good to see you on here again!

This naming the bus thing is big. The last vehicle I REALLY named was my first car. A 66 beetle named Christine and I've owned that car for 25 years.
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Old 12-16-2020, 08:20 AM   #789
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interesting.. I never thoiught about it but you are right there never seems to be any shavings with self tappers.. so they all go where? stay in the threads of the fastener?
I get lots of shavings with self-tappers. I installed the projecting box on the roof for my vent fan with them, and the shavings kept getting into the seam sealer.
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I no longer have an air compressor so my riveting capabilities are stunted. I may use self tapping screws and lap sealant to install the roof hatch delete.
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Won't that mainly be connecting into sheet metal? It's my understanding that self-tappers perform poorly in that application.
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I no longer have an air compressor so my riveting capabilities are stunted. I may use self tapping screws and lap sealant to install the roof hatch delete.
I'd do a series of appropriately-sized bolts, with well-washered nuts (with an aliqout of Lok-Tite), on the interior.
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Old 12-16-2020, 10:03 AM   #792
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Won't that mainly be connecting into sheet metal? It's my understanding that self-tappers perform poorly in that application.I'd do a series of appropriately-sized bolts, with well-washered nuts (with an aliqout of Lok-Tite), on the interior.
Sheet metal screws is what I meant. IDK bout the self tapping, just the kind the bus is already built with but probably will buy stainless.
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Old 12-16-2020, 03:23 PM   #793
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Rain delay today.
Going to try and wake up super early and go to ACE and grab those sheet-metal screws.
its a small, old store with shitty ventilation. Only way I'm going is with a mask and right when they open.
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Old 12-16-2020, 05:04 PM   #794
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Or local hardware store closed, and now just left with the bid box stores, who never seem to have what I want. So Mcmaster-Carr gets my vote. Next day delivery, and just a phone call away. No more driving to a useless store just to come home and have to order it anyway.


Neat name for the bus, guess you are going to keep it now.
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Or local hardware store closed, and now just left with the bid box stores, who never seem to have what I want. So Mcmaster-Carr gets my vote. Next day delivery, and just a phone call away. No more driving to a useless store just to come home and have to order it anyway.


Neat name for the bus, guess you are going to keep it now.
Well we sat and talked and decided we want to work TOGETHER on this and try and see it though.
Buying actual conversion stuff and naming it is unusual for us, so yeah we're pretty attached to it now.
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Old 12-16-2020, 05:27 PM   #796
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Old 12-16-2020, 11:01 PM   #797
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Well we sat and talked and decided we want to work TOGETHER on this and try and see it though.
Buying actual conversion stuff and naming it is unusual for us, so yeah we're pretty attached to it now.
That is very good news indeed!
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no "glory" pics of it yet but we got the wheelchair mounts and the last two seats out this afternoon. got a late start but just managed to finish by dark.
Now all we have left to do in the demo stage of the floor is get up the drivers side rubber flooring.

Then we get the adhesive residue off, ospho, and paint it.

Thinking of going thin as possible with the flooring. We won't be living in this thing and we don't want to eat up any precious headroom. Thinking of going with 1/2" Foamular XPS and 1/2" marine ply. Will be sufficient and a huge improvement over what's there lol.
Would XPS or Rmax be best under the ply?
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Old 12-29-2020, 08:21 AM   #799
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Started on the last of the flooring yesterday. All that was left was the driver's side rear rubber.
Roxy's gotten pretty good at working under the bus helping with seat and WC tie down removal so that went quick.

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Found a bit of surprise rust under this side. The culprit- a couple slight leaks in the joints of the coolant lines. IDK whey they had to use couplings and clamps when they could have just used one solid run of hose. Can see where the leak slowly did its thing.



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