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12-15-2020, 08:50 PM
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#781
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by plfking
So it sounds like you're keeping it? Glad to hear.
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I've had a very tough year. Not just since March. But yeah gonna try to see this one through.
Its a Unicorn named Saoirse
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freedom
Saoirse (Irish: [ˈsˠiːɾʲʃə, ˈsˠeːɾʲʃə]; roughly SEER-shə) is an Irish female given name meaning 'freedom', which became popular in Ireland in the 1920s.
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The bus is also a unicorn, which happens to be the official animal of Scotland. So this bus shall have a nice Scots-Irish theme.
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12-15-2020, 08:53 PM
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#782
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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12-15-2020, 08:59 PM
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#783
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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12-15-2020, 10:49 PM
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#784
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,570
Coachwork: Integrated Coach Corp.
Chassis: RE-300 42ft
Engine: 466ci
Rated Cap: 90
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
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I never thought about the fasteners.. but boy you are right it seems like a lot of rust starts around a hole made by a fastener..
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I'm sure the hole material was the source on our '09. Most of the rust came off the floor, yet underneath the rust was primer and glue. Plenty of metal flakes still floating around. The drilled holes for the seats and ac had zero rust. Self tappers don't evacuate the material. Same happens to steel roofing if the flakes are left topside by the installers. Our best management practice is to pre-drill/vacuume.
ECCB, I, too, fly the Scottish flag. (1st gen American) We love the Irish, as well.
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12-16-2020, 06:18 AM
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#785
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeMac
I'm sure the hole material was the source on our '09. Most of the rust came off the floor, yet underneath the rust was primer and glue. Plenty of metal flakes still floating around. The drilled holes for the seats and ac had zero rust. Self tappers don't evacuate the material. Same happens to steel roofing if the flakes are left topside by the installers. Our best management practice is to pre-drill/vacuume.
ECCB, I, too, fly the Scottish flag. (1st gen American) We love the Irish, as well.
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Very cool!
My wife is a Scot. My granny was Irish.
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12-16-2020, 06:45 AM
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#786
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeMac
I'm sure the hole material was the source on our '09. Most of the rust came off the floor, yet underneath the rust was primer and glue. Plenty of metal flakes still floating around. The drilled holes for the seats and ac had zero rust. Self tappers don't evacuate the material. Same happens to steel roofing if the flakes are left topside by the installers. Our best management practice is to pre-drill/vacuume.
ECCB, I, too, fly the Scottish flag. (1st gen American) We love the Irish, as well.
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interesting.. I never thoiught about it but you are right there never seems to be any shavings with self tappers.. so they all go where? stay in the threads of the fastener?
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12-16-2020, 08:07 AM
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#787
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: E Central Tejas
Posts: 2,094
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: IH 3800, 8 window
Engine: T444E w/ Spicer 5-speed MT
Rated Cap: I prefer broad-brims hats
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Limited tho my experience with self-tappers is; when I installed 1.5" X 0.5"'s alongside of my hat channels to suspend my ceiling from, the majority of the shavings were *above* the 'tapper's drill bit point, with probably a curl or two winding up in the hole's backside.
I put my large magnet, wrapped in plastic, beneath the pilot point to snag the waste steel as it was ejected.
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Originally Posted by cadillackid
interesting.. I never thoiught about it but you are right there never seems to be any shavings with self tappers.. so they all go where? stay in the threads of the fastener?
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[Point of interest: I solved any potential unwanted ingress thru the e-hatch with a strip scrap of plywood (as seen to the left)
Not pretty. Likewise not concerned ATM...]
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12-16-2020, 08:14 AM
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#788
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HazMatt
Limited tho my experience with self-tappers is; when I installed 1.5" X 0.5"'s alongside of my hat channels to suspend my ceiling from, the majority of the shavings were *above* the 'tapper's drill bit point, with probably a curl or two winding up in the hole's backside.
I put my large magnet, wrapped in plastic, beneath the pilot point to snag the waste steel as it was ejected.
[Point of interest: I solved any potential unwanted ingress thru the e-hatch with a strip scrap of plywood (as seen to the left)
Not pretty. Likewise not concerned ATM...] Attachment 52017
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I've really missed you on here lately man. Good to see you on here again!
This naming the bus thing is big. The last vehicle I REALLY named was my first car. A 66 beetle named Christine and I've owned that car for 25 years.
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12-16-2020, 08:20 AM
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#789
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,000
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
interesting.. I never thoiught about it but you are right there never seems to be any shavings with self tappers.. so they all go where? stay in the threads of the fastener?
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I get lots of shavings with self-tappers. I installed the projecting box on the roof for my vent fan with them, and the shavings kept getting into the seam sealer.
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12-16-2020, 09:40 AM
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#790
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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I no longer have an air compressor so my riveting capabilities are stunted. I may use self tapping screws and lap sealant to install the roof hatch delete.
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12-16-2020, 09:54 AM
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#791
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: E Central Tejas
Posts: 2,094
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: IH 3800, 8 window
Engine: T444E w/ Spicer 5-speed MT
Rated Cap: I prefer broad-brims hats
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Won't that mainly be connecting into sheet metal? It's my understanding that self-tappers perform poorly in that application.
Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
I no longer have an air compressor so my riveting capabilities are stunted. I may use self tapping screws and lap sealant to install the roof hatch delete.
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I'd do a series of appropriately-sized bolts, with well-washered nuts (with an aliqout of Lok-Tite), on the interior.
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12-16-2020, 10:03 AM
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#792
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HazMatt
Won't that mainly be connecting into sheet metal? It's my understanding that self-tappers perform poorly in that application.I'd do a series of appropriately-sized bolts, with well-washered nuts (with an aliqout of Lok-Tite), on the interior.
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Sheet metal screws is what I meant. IDK bout the self tapping, just the kind the bus is already built with but probably will buy stainless.
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12-16-2020, 03:23 PM
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#793
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Rain delay today.
Going to try and wake up super early and go to ACE and grab those sheet-metal screws.
its a small, old store with shitty ventilation. Only way I'm going is with a mask and right when they open.
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12-16-2020, 05:04 PM
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#794
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,325
Year: 1971
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International Loadstar 1700
Engine: 345 international V-8
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Or local hardware store closed, and now just left with the bid box stores, who never seem to have what I want. So Mcmaster-Carr gets my vote. Next day delivery, and just a phone call away. No more driving to a useless store just to come home and have to order it anyway.
Neat name for the bus, guess you are going to keep it now.
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12-16-2020, 05:24 PM
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#795
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnie
Or local hardware store closed, and now just left with the bid box stores, who never seem to have what I want. So Mcmaster-Carr gets my vote. Next day delivery, and just a phone call away. No more driving to a useless store just to come home and have to order it anyway.
Neat name for the bus, guess you are going to keep it now.
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Well we sat and talked and decided we want to work TOGETHER on this and try and see it though.
Buying actual conversion stuff and naming it is unusual for us, so yeah we're pretty attached to it now.
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12-16-2020, 05:27 PM
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#796
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: pa
Posts: 2,507
Year: 98
Coachwork: 1. Corbeil & 2. Thomas
Chassis: 1 ford 1998 e350 4x4 7.3 2 mercedes 2004
Engine: 7.3 powerstroke & MBE906
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I know that feeling..things change when you have some sweat and blood in it.
Johan
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12-16-2020, 11:01 PM
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#797
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,856
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Well we sat and talked and decided we want to work TOGETHER on this and try and see it though.
Buying actual conversion stuff and naming it is unusual for us, so yeah we're pretty attached to it now.
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That is very good news indeed!
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12-27-2020, 06:00 PM
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#798
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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no "glory" pics of it yet but we got the wheelchair mounts and the last two seats out this afternoon. got a late start but just managed to finish by dark.
Now all we have left to do in the demo stage of the floor is get up the drivers side rubber flooring.
Then we get the adhesive residue off, ospho, and paint it.
Thinking of going thin as possible with the flooring. We won't be living in this thing and we don't want to eat up any precious headroom. Thinking of going with 1/2" Foamular XPS and 1/2" marine ply. Will be sufficient and a huge improvement over what's there lol.
Would XPS or Rmax be best under the ply?
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12-29-2020, 08:21 AM
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#799
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Started on the last of the flooring yesterday. All that was left was the driver's side rear rubber.
Roxy's gotten pretty good at working under the bus helping with seat and WC tie down removal so that went quick.
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12-29-2020, 08:31 AM
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#800
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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