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04-26-2021, 03:52 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 2
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short bus leveling
i am in the planning of a short bus/van to convert but do they need jacks on the 4 corners or are the springs strong enough so it dosent move on springs. it will be a single man and 2 cats but still wondering. better to plan fully than try to retrofit tnx
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04-26-2021, 07:16 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 1,349
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Thomas 4 window w/lift
Chassis: G30~Chevy cutaway
Engine: 5.7/350 Chevy Vortec
Rated Cap: Just me and my "stuff"?
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I try to park on as level ground as possible, as I don't have "leveling" jacks.
If things are way out after trying to find the most level area to park, I'll place rocks under the tires on whichever side or individual corner that needs to be raised to achieve "level".
There are plastic wedges sold at RV dealers to basically do the same thing as the rocks I use, that might work better but I've not felt the need to buy them.
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04-26-2021, 07:19 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Your question is kind of vague.
Bus body weighs 1000's of lbs. Your body weight is not gonna noticeably rock the boat.
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04-26-2021, 08:16 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,231
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Oh yes it will! I made stabilizer jacks from tent trailer jacks and hydraulic rams (think Port-O-Power) cheap and effective on my 10K bus.
Jack
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04-26-2021, 08:23 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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I can rock my bus around with just my body weight.
Get some stabilizer jacks.
Or be the envy of the shorty crowd and get a hydraulic leveling setup off a junked RV.
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05-01-2021, 10:52 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Wamego Ks
Posts: 617
Year: 2007
Chassis: Collins
Engine: 6.6L LMM Duramax
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I agree about jacks. I put two c jacks on the back of our shortbus and it's helped alot. I have some 2x10 cut up as well as a few of the composite deck boards that I keep on the bus to lay down and drive the front tires on them to level the bus out. You never know how level a campsite is going to be! I would like to add half to the front but haven't done it yet. The hydraulic jack idea sounds awesome!
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05-23-2021, 02:42 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas suburbs
Posts: 75
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: Shorty 6 window handicap
Engine: Int 444e
Rated Cap: 21
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I guess I am not the norm... my shorty has the same engine, tranny and suspension as its full size brothers. I thought about putting stabilizers on it but it hardly moves at all when inside it.
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05-23-2021, 03:28 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 70
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Your question is kind of vague.
Bus body weighs 1000's of lbs. Your body weight is not gonna noticeably rock the boat.
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Gotta totally agree with Marc on this. A bus will not even notice you moving around.
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05-23-2021, 09:41 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,231
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Once you get a short bus you will change your tune--or your significant other will convince you after a sea sick episode. The good thing is that it's never too late to add stabilizers.
Jack
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05-23-2021, 10:06 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Near Flagstaff AZ
Posts: 1,951
Year: 1974
Coachwork: Crown
Chassis: "Atomic"
Engine: DD 8V71
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We live in an MCI MC-7...a former Greyhound bus that's super heavy. And our 45 pound dog, trotting from end of the bus to the other, creates noticeable movement. Wind will definitely rock the bus. I like jacks.
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05-23-2021, 11:36 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Fraser Valley British Columbia
Posts: 1,043
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner
Engine: C7 Cat
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Yep the motion of the ocean in our 36'er just walking around is enough sometimes to put you off balance.
And that's before the whiskey comes out
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05-24-2021, 09:52 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,222
Year: 1999
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC1000 HandyBus
Engine: 5.9L 24V-L6 Cummins ISB
Rated Cap: 26 foot
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How funny! In my bouncy-bouncy "clown" bus that teeter-totters down the road over bumps, I don't feel much ocean motion when I walk around. I have 2 sets of wind-chimes hanging over the dash, and they very lightly ring, but usually only when I enter through the back door wearing shoes.
I put in new shocks when I got it. I'm only 115 lbs max; 112 the other day as I was weighing my caving rope to see which was the 250' and which the 300'.
I want jacks more for leveling.
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05-24-2021, 10:04 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Fraser Valley British Columbia
Posts: 1,043
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner
Engine: C7 Cat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountain Gnome
How funny! In my bouncy-bouncy "clown" bus that teeter-totters down the road over bumps, I don't feel much ocean motion when I walk around. I have 2 sets of wind-chimes hanging over the dash, and they very lightly ring, but usually only when I enter through the back door wearing shoes.
I put in new shocks when I got it. I'm only 115 lbs max; 112 the other day as I was weighing my caving rope to see which was the 250' and which the 300'.
I want jacks more for leveling.
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Now I'm envious, I'm way past my spelunking days at 215lbs don't go in there!
Yes agree on the levelling, Canada has Princess auto, similar to your Harbour Freight. Picked up a set of four levelling jacks (50% off) that wind up with a cordless impact.
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05-24-2021, 11:52 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,000
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountain Gnome
I put in new shocks when I got it.
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My bus rocked pretty noticeably when I first got it, from walking around and when the wind blew. My first trip to the shop they told me my front shocks were broken and replaced them, and since then it's felt a lot more stable.
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05-25-2021, 11:52 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,222
Year: 1999
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC1000 HandyBus
Engine: 5.9L 24V-L6 Cummins ISB
Rated Cap: 26 foot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oscar1
Now I'm envious, I'm way past my spelunking days at 215lbs don't go in there!
Yes agree on the levelling, Canada has Princess auto, similar to your Harbour Freight. Picked up a set of four levelling jacks (50% off) that wind up with a cordless impact.
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Cavers rescue spelunkers
My luck with HF has been 50%. Even the bottle jack I got failed. Others here love theirs for years. How often do they use them?
I could go on....
For now I'm using 2×4s. Will be looking for a construction site that might give me a couple few 2×8 trims. Might cost $20 each now-a-days
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05-25-2021, 04:44 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Georgia
Posts: 71
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Midbus
Chassis: Chevy Express G3500
Engine: 6.0 V8
Rated Cap: 12+2WC
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Amused at the insistence that shorties don’t rock. I am guessing it depends on the chassis. Proper bus chassis’ probably don’t rock like the van chassis’ do. My shortie vanbus most definitely rocks from body weight. Heck, it rocks in the wind without added body movement!
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05-25-2021, 05:14 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas suburbs
Posts: 75
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: Shorty 6 window handicap
Engine: Int 444e
Rated Cap: 21
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My bus is so stiff I am thinking about removing a few leaves. I do love watching my wife's expression as she bounces on the bed in the back while driving though!
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05-25-2021, 05:20 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Swansboro,NC
Posts: 2,988
Year: 86
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
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gnome.
caint say i am proud of especially since my son has a mac tool account?
i have wasted money on the HF floor jacks and wont buy another one. but i have a 20 ton bottle jack from them that i have had for 5 years with no problems and between my son and i we mechanic almost every weekend and if the bottle fits under the vehicle then it the go to if it doesnt fit the floor jack will get it up enough for it to fit and i have left it under a vehicle and released enough to get it on stands and it has never leaked down?
maybe i lucked out which dont usually happen and got a good one??
but my luck now that i talked about it giving it a little boost it will give up?
i refuse to talk about anything in my house because everytime i brag or when it breaks i am getting that within a week something is broke and i still end up fixing it instead of upgrade because its something stupid/minor compared to replacement.
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