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04-15-2015, 01:21 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Cuyahoga Falls Ohio
Posts: 592
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Startrans
Chassis: Ford e-350 single wheel
Engine: 5.4 litre
Rated Cap: 12
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shuttle bus battery underneath ???
I have a 1997 e350 startrans shuttle bus with the coach battery underneath the passenger side of the fiberglass body. Battery has exploded and I can't read the battery specs. Anyone have a clue as to what size I should buy for a replacement? Or should it be labeled on the bus somewhere? I tried google but can't find much info.
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04-15-2015, 01:27 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MNT CITY TN
Posts: 5,158
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04-15-2015, 01:47 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Cuyahoga Falls Ohio
Posts: 592
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Startrans
Chassis: Ford e-350 single wheel
Engine: 5.4 litre
Rated Cap: 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bansil
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Not me. but I did see that while searching but not any good info in that thread.
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04-15-2015, 01:57 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Cuyahoga Falls Ohio
Posts: 592
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Startrans
Chassis: Ford e-350 single wheel
Engine: 5.4 litre
Rated Cap: 12
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This is the coach battery , not the starting battery. Can use any top post battery with an Amp/Hour rating of ??? I assume the cranking amps don't apply for coach batteries.
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04-16-2015, 07:39 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Winlcok, WA
Posts: 2,233
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Most of the time, particularly if you have a diesel engine the coach and starting batteries are hooked together.
IIRC most of the time they were group 24 batteries. Some may have been group 27 batteries. There were a few models of E-350/450 chassis that had an oddball sized battery, the size of which I don't recall. I remember on a '94 E-350 I had it had the oddball sized battery. It was a different sized case which had to be special ordered. I got it from Interstate--they were the only ones that could get one in within a reasonable amount of time.
I would replace both batteries at the same time. If you don't the old battery will suck the life out of the new battery.
If there is enough room in the skirt mounted battery box I would put in a single group 31 or 8D battery and eliminate the second battery.
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04-16-2015, 09:02 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Cuyahoga Falls Ohio
Posts: 592
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Startrans
Chassis: Ford e-350 single wheel
Engine: 5.4 litre
Rated Cap: 12
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I'm a gas engine and the batteries are totally separated except they are charged from the same alternator. Maybe I will just take the old battery in and see what the counter guy says.
Quote:
Originally Posted by cowlitzcoach
Most of the time, particularly if you have a diesel engine the coach and starting batteries are hooked together.
IIRC most of the time they were group 24 batteries. Some may have been group 27 batteries. There were a few models of E-350/450 chassis that had an oddball sized battery, the size of which I don't recall. I remember on a '94 E-350 I had it had the oddball sized battery. It was a different sized case which had to be special ordered. I got it from Interstate--they were the only ones that could get one in within a reasonable amount of time.
I would replace both batteries at the same time. If you don't the old battery will suck the life out of the new battery.
If there is enough room in the skirt mounted battery box I would put in a single group 31 or 8D battery and eliminate the second battery.
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04-16-2015, 09:21 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cowlitzcoach
If there is enough room in the skirt mounted battery box I would put in a single group 31 or 8D battery and eliminate the second battery.
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This is what we do at the shop I work at.
Anytime yo can, remove a multiple battery bank, and install one large battery.
It will last much longer.
Nat
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04-16-2015, 10:00 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 258
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You guys aren't into isolating a starter battery? That's like, so wired into my psyche that I can't imagine living without it. Starting is the highest transient drain on a battery in its entire lifecycle, and sometimes it's not obvious when you're getting down to the magic "shoot, won't start" point. Like if it's super cold one day and it needs to crank longer? I definitely plan to run my house loads off an isolated battery. Same reason as when I plumb in the Webasto (or whatever), I take the diesel feed several inches up the tank wall - so there's always fuel for actually running the engine.
Or are we talking about different things?
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04-16-2015, 01:08 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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I use battery disconnects on everything. Even so, the lead acid battery's slowly drain over time.
One more reason I hate one ton van buses. Lack of common sense when built. Most here have no battery disconnect switch.
Nat
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02-24-2018, 12:54 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 973
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Quote:
Originally Posted by leadsled01
I have a 1997 e350 startrans shuttle bus with the coach battery underneath the passenger side of the fiberglass body. Battery has exploded and I can't read the battery specs. Anyone have a clue as to what size I should buy for a replacement? Or should it be labeled on the bus somewhere? I tried google but can't find much info.
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My 2 cents? I'd go with a 800cca rating...idk
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02-24-2018, 11:26 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Honestly that sounds like a mess. If your rig is still in running condition I''d go to a Battery X Change or somewhere similar and let them extract the old battery and determine what it was.
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02-26-2018, 07:02 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Cuyahoga Falls Ohio
Posts: 592
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Startrans
Chassis: Ford e-350 single wheel
Engine: 5.4 litre
Rated Cap: 12
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This thread is 3 years old.
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02-26-2018, 09:15 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Well, then nobody should get upset. And it may be three years old, but it's till on topic.
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