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01-29-2020, 07:19 PM
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New Member
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what size tires
If there is 11x22.5 tires on the bus now can i put any other size on?Its an old bus with dayton rims.
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01-29-2020, 07:41 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Claremont, NH
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11r22.5 is the standard commercial truck tire. You could obviously go smaller (10r22.5, 295/75, 275/70, etc.) but the top speed will be reduced. Did you get a line on a cheap set that is a different size?
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01-29-2020, 08:07 PM
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New Member
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I have been checking around on new and used tires. I looked today at some that looked pretty good that where on a bus. Somebody was scrapping the bus. They were 275/70. This guy scraps out a lot of buses. I never saw so many engines stacked up waiting to go somewhere.
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01-30-2020, 08:02 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Claremont, NH
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Year: 2003
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Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466E (195hp, 520tq)
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The 275/70 tires are around 37" tall. The 11r22.5 are around 41" tall. This is a pretty big drop in size and top end. Unless you are doing just city or lots of hill climbing, stick with 11 or 10r's.
We have the opposite problem. Our bus has 255/70x22.5's and I found a nice set of almost new 10r22.5s, but they are too tall.
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01-30-2020, 09:01 AM
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Bus Geek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ermracing
We have the opposite problem. Our bus has 255/70x22.5's and I found a nice set of almost new 10r22.5s, but they are too tall.
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Time to install a lift kit!
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01-30-2020, 09:56 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Claremont, NH
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
Time to install a lift kit!
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Flat floor, air suspension, plus we have some brandy new 255's on the way....
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01-30-2020, 12:49 PM
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Bus Geek
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I put 22.5 lp's on my truck and it rides like a buckboard. Someone here told me that 11r22.5 has more flexiblility in the sidewalls and yield a better ride.
Something to consider.
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01-30-2020, 01:00 PM
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Bus Geek
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low profile = low speed but I guess those mini donuts help you get up a hill!
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01-30-2020, 05:07 PM
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Bus Geek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timohara
I have been checking around on new and used tires. I looked today at some that looked pretty good that where on a bus. Somebody was scrapping the bus. They were 275/70. This guy scraps out a lot of buses. I never saw so many engines stacked up waiting to go somewhere.
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timohara.
is this bus scrap yard in NC or near NC?
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01-30-2020, 07:33 PM
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New Member
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Originally Posted by Jolly Roger bus 223
timohara.
is this bus scrap yard in NC or near NC?
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He's in statesville nc he buys up alot buses cuts the engine out saves afew other things and scrapes the rest made me kinda sad the day I was there 84 Thomas 91 Thomas shorty 86 thomas vista he does alot of used tires on rims
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01-30-2020, 08:25 PM
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Bus Crazy
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Does this gentleman in Statesville have a name and phone # ?
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01-30-2020, 08:39 PM
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Bus Crazy
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Don't forget to consider wheel width. Every tire's going to have a design-wheel width upon which the performance characteristics are based. Generally speaking you have some latitude between the next size up and/or down wheel, but anything other than tire size that agrees with the design wheel width will deform slightly, altering the contact patch and potentially affecting variables like traction, wear, or mileage.
For reference (see pages 74/75):
https://commercial.bridgestone.com/c...08-07-2018.pdf
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01-30-2020, 11:53 PM
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New Member
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Its Wheeler engine cores the only # I have 3139956267 I think he his name Willard If you want e mail me I'll be going back to look for a rear end with better gears
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01-31-2020, 01:53 AM
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Bus Crazy
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If you install tires too wide for the rims it's probably no big deal on the front wheels unless they touch the tie rods at full lock, but it could be A Very Bad Thing on the rear duals: there's a high likelihood they would rub together, and that's a guaranteed red flag to any DOT inspection. The most important thing with tires is to never use a lower-rated tire than the manufacturer's specified size(s) on the vehicle's data plate, and to keep the same or similar RPM (revolutions per mile) rating; if the RPM is different by more than a very few percent the speedometer/odometer will need to be recalibrated.
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01-31-2020, 08:01 PM
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Bus Crazy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceni John
If you install tires too wide for the rims it's probably no big deal
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At a bare minimum, the tire isn't going to wear as designed, the mounted dimensions won't agree with what's published, & the ride quality will suffer. Maybe not 'end of days', but I'd consider those issues significant. Though admittedly far less problematic than rear tires rubbing as you point out.
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02-01-2020, 09:23 AM
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Bus Crazy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHubbardBus
At a bare minimum, the tire isn't going to wear as designed, the mounted dimensions won't agree with what's published, & the ride quality will suffer. Maybe not 'end of days', but I'd consider those issues significant. Though admittedly far less problematic than rear tires rubbing as you point out.
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yes 10r22.5 uses a narrower rim than a 11r22.5. however i seen lots of the low profile series use the 11r22.5 rim
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02-01-2020, 09:38 AM
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Bus Geek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mmoore6856
yes 10r22.5 uses a narrower rim than a 11r22.5. however i seen lots of the low profile series use the 11r22.5 rim
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Its 100% ok to put an 11R on a 7.5" wheel as long as the tires don't rub each other in the back.
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02-01-2020, 11:56 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timohara
Its Wheeler engine cores the only # I have 3139956267 I think he his name Willard If you want e mail me I'll be going back to look for a rear end with better gears
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Thank you very much for the info....I'll give him a holler. I'm looking for the same thing.
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02-06-2020, 03:45 AM
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Bus Crazy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timohara
If there is 11x22.5 tires on the bus now can i put any other size on?Its an old bus with dayton rims.
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What tires are listed on the tag for the gvwr? That may answer your question for you.
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02-06-2020, 10:35 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Nov 2019
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11x22.5 on the rear and 10x20 steer on the front manufacturer listing 825x20 with 20x7 rims what I'm trying to do is drop the rear about 6in so it will fit in the garage the door is 10 foot high bus is 10ft4in
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