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Old 11-11-2020, 08:37 PM   #1
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Question Why no trailer ??

Just wondering, I have a Chev Blue-bird mini bus with a 454 gas hog power plant that I plan to pull a 8 X 12 enclosed trailer. this trailer will carry my complete rest room facilities and a garage to house "Suzy" my road bike and a few tools. I see on this forum very few if any trailer conversions like this and was wondering why. Seems to me a logical solution to the space issue is running a short bus conversion. comments?

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Old 11-11-2020, 08:49 PM   #2
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Typical skoolie automatic transmissions are not designed to tow much more than perhaps 2,000 lb at the most beyond the primary vehicle's original curb weight. The GVWR is what the transmission, brakes, engine and suspension can all safely handle. And the transmission is usually the weak link.

Weigh your rig on a CAT scale and compare that weight against the GVWR of the vehicle..
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Old 11-11-2020, 08:55 PM   #3
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Typical skoolie automatic transmissions are not designed to tow much more than perhaps 2,000 lb at the most beyond the primary vehicle's original curb weight. The GVWR is what the transmission, brakes, engine and suspension can all safely handle. And the transmission is usually the weak link.

Weigh your rig on a CAT scale and compare that weight against the GVWR of the vehicle..
I understand that part and it makes perfect sense, however, Since the bus is rated at a 32 person capacity per say 100 lbs each, that would, or should cover the extra weight of the trailer providing you have added a towing cooling package to the mix. not ??
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You'd be surprised how much weight a conversion adds. Usually about 2000-4000 lbs, depending. Which pretty much eats up the breathing room you had. The only way to know for sure is to weigh your rig after conversion with a full tank of fuel and any water tanks full, then compared to the GVWR to see how much differential there is. I'm not saying it can't be done, it's just a much narrower window after conversion than you might think.

Also, consider that the passenger rating is based on the average size / weight of a child, not a full grown adult. So I think 100 pounds per is probably reaching a bit.
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You'd be surprised how much weight a conversion adds. Usually about 2000-4000 lbs, depending. Which pretty much eats up the breathing room you had. The only way to know for sure is to weigh your rig after conversion with a full tank of fuel and any water tanks full, then compared to the GVWR to see how much differential there is. I'm not saying it can't be done, it's just a much narrower window after conversion than you might think.
agreed, You make a valid point I really didn't think about. I will do the scale routine and see what we run into. Since I require only the basics, I think it will work out on a weight distribution. Being familiar with Blue-birds, and GM chassis, I'm confident I can come up with a workable solution. I remember the weight equation that gives me the extra capacity not listed on the GVWR of the unit. Thanx for the reminder !!
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Because towing a trailer is so "RVish" and you want to be Truely Skoolie right?
A long bus like a motorhome has huge rear overhang and is not great for towing, but people still tow with them, cars in particular.
A short bus generally not any worse than a truck or van on overhang. A smallish trailer is a great idea in my opinion. I'd like to see a way to connect them together when parked, that would be ideal, somewhat like a bendy bus or train, you can walk between 'cars'
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