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Old 05-19-2023, 07:35 PM   #1
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Propane running skoolie

Hi everyone,

I'm looking to buy a 2014 Ford E450 Micro Bird G5, with Roush Propane system.

The bus is in a good shape but rusty from underneath, and, most important, the propane tank is rusty too.

My questions are:

1. Can I replace with any other tank?
The OEM propane tank, 41 gallons, is expensive, this is insane.
Also needs replacement a regulator, I guess, it's called, right next to the tank, due to rust too.

2. If it's possible to replace with any other tank, is it safe to install an additional tank within the frame, as shown on a picture? Perhaps, outskirt installation is allowed, would be easier that way.

3. Any experience dealing with Roush systems?
I understand that they are making money on their proprietary parts, just wanna explore the options.

4. FL state doesn't require re-certification of propane systems, however, I've lived in Toronto, ON for 16 years, had had a propane running van, and the special sticker is required at the fueling station, otherwise no service.
I'm planning to travel, wanna find out if the same restrictions applicable at some other states?

Thank you in advance for any suggestion, guys!

Alex
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Old 05-19-2023, 08:40 PM   #2
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If you haven't already bought it, don't.

Rust is one issue, which you should also avoid, but you'll make your life tougher running an alternate fuel.

Imagine running out of fuel - do you have to be towed in to refuel? Go with gas or diesel, make it easier on you.
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Old 05-30-2023, 07:25 PM   #3
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I checked and Wyoming has four propane refill stations. You might be able to make it from one to another on a single tank.

https://afdc.energy.gov/fuels/propan...arest?fuel=LPG

Where do you plan on going with the rig? Not Wyoming, I'm guessing.
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Old 06-03-2023, 03:40 PM   #4
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I was told that propane tanks for cars use liquid propane from the bottom of the tank.

Grill tanks use gas propane from the top.

This what I was told. I have no experience with it.
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Old 06-03-2023, 08:23 PM   #5
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5.4 or 6.8 engine? Either way they are very mass-produced and it would be easy to get all the junkyard parts to make it a gasoline bus if you don't want to reuse the propane
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Old 06-04-2023, 10:33 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by E350 MiniBus View Post
Hi everyone,

I'm looking to buy a 2014 Ford E450 Micro Bird G5, with Roush Propane system.

The bus is in a good shape but rusty from underneath, and, most important, the propane tank is rusty too.

My questions are:

1. Can I replace with any other tank?
The OEM propane tank, 41 gallons, is expensive, this is insane.
Also needs replacement a regulator, I guess, it's called, right next to the tank, due to rust too.

2. If it's possible to replace with any other tank, is it safe to install an additional tank within the frame, as shown on a picture? Perhaps, outskirt installation is allowed, would be easier that way.

3. Any experience dealing with Roush systems?
I understand that they are making money on their proprietary parts, just wanna explore the options.

4. FL state doesn't require re-certification of propane systems, however, I've lived in Toronto, ON for 16 years, had had a propane running van, and the special sticker is required at the fueling station, otherwise no service.
I'm planning to travel, wanna find out if the same restrictions applicable at some other states?

Thank you in advance for any suggestion, guys!

Alex
RFR! It can't be said more emphatically. Run from rust! Remediation of rest will beat you down, where you out, and eat your budget.
Without even giving any attention to the concerns regarding propane powered vehicles and traveling, just run away from the rust bucket.
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Old 06-08-2023, 01:41 AM   #7
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RFR! It can't be said more emphatically. Run from rust! Remediation of rest will beat you down, where you out, and eat your budget... just run away from the rust bucket.
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E350,
Don't you dare listen to those nay-sayers.
Some of us like rust.
Some of us prefer corrosion, corroded and gunked so thoroughly, the parts appear to be recent graduates of decades in the sea.
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Some of us go afar afield to savor those precious moments of rust and tarnation.
Quiet reflection, a needed break from the new, the shiny.
A chance to meditate on this oh so temporary existence here on the physical plane.
Rust is your friend, your mentor... dare I say, rust is your beloved.
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Propane-powered vehicle?
No way, no how, never.
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Old 06-08-2023, 04:21 PM   #8
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E350, I'm guessing you've passed on this bus (otherwise we might have heard from you?)
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