Can you help find this

[Lassehammer]

Hi everybody, I'm looking for a spare one of these (see photo)

Can anyone help me to where I can find a new one?

Thank you 🙂

[Brad_SwiftFur]

OK, I'm curious, that's a piece of hardware with which I am not familiar.

[rossvtaylor]

Originally Posted by Brad_SwiftFur

OK, I'm curious, that's a piece of hardware with which I am not familiar.

Likewise...we've never seen this. But I was able to find out a bit of info. Apparently, it's a FuelOMat controller and it looks like there's an RFID ring that identifies the vehicle to a compatible pump for fueling and fleet fuel management. Or...possibly, I'm completely wrong!


Having said all this, I was only able to find the VIU3 (a prior version?) on ebay. So I can't help the OP in their search...but it was interesting enough to share what I found...I thought, anyway.

[Elliot Naess]

Fleet management equipment.
Hei, Lasse. Temmelig ukurrant utstyr, ser det ut til. Til hvilken nytte kunne dette være i privatbruk?

I also see several VIU3 on eBay, but no VIU4.
And the other mentions I find of this company are not encouraging.
How about you introduce yourself and tell us what you are working on?

[Crown_Guy]

Originally Posted by Lassehammer

Hi everybody, I'm looking for a spare one of these (see photo)

Can anyone help me to where I can find a new one?

Thank you ��

Without knowing the year, make, and model of the bus in question along with the engine and transmission make and model it's going to be tough to know for sure what this is.

Just as a wild guess I could suggest that you do a web search for these videos. Google "Turbo Encabulator" and it may provide insight. But just in case yours is the newer all electronic version you'll want to google the "Rockwell Retro Encabulator".

The underlying principles of the two units haven't changed too much and both still rely on the Modial interaction of the magneto reluctance and Capacitive Duractance. Which work at keeping the sperving bearings in line with the parametric fam, thus securing the lunar wayne shaft, so side fumbling is effectively eliminated.....

Too much to go into here but I strongly suggest you google and watch the two videos for a better understanding of what you may be up against.

And get us those details of your vehicle. Or you can deal with the Turbo Encabulator.

Merry Christmas!

[Elliot Naess]

Found it:
https://www.oreillyauto.com/flux-500.html

[BeNimble]

This device makes sure the bus does not run, which makes it an intrinsically safe bus.

[Lassehammer]

Wow, thank you guys so much for all the replies!

It's sadly not my bus, so I'm waiting for the information to those of you who asked for it

There's a similar bus at the place it was bought, so that'll be checked out for parts too 😁

[Lassehammer]

Haha happy to motivate some researching ����

[Crown_Guy]

Originally Posted by BeNimble

This device makes sure the bus does not run, which makes it an intrinsically safe bus.

THIS!!!!. Always the goal of ALL safety Crappola. Intrinsically safe. Equals USELESS. That list is LOOOOONG. Think of all the interlocks that keeps the bus from starting and when they go wrong good luck troubleshooting. My fix is to isolate and rip the damn thing out then defeat it's purpose. Simpler, and mechanical if possible, and force the driver to learn his vehicle and stay engaged in it's safe operation.

Just like in the good ole days when we was "Drivers" and not just the nut behind the wheel who couldn't be trusted to do anything right, except haul around 50 screaming little monsters, or paying passengers expecting a professional driver to take care of them. That's not too common today, the drivers I mean, the buses have been automated to the point the Operators have no clue and aren't curious enough to want to find out. But I'm not biased or anything.

[Native]

Nope, not biased at all.

[Lassehammer]

Hey Elliot
The link shows an unkwon search on the website, can you tell me what you put in the search field?
Thanks ��

[Lassehammer]

Got the info

The Vin number is 1BAABCSA9XF084407

Year and make 1999 blue bird bus

Hope this helps 😁

[ewo1]

Originally Posted by Elliot Naess

Found it:
https://www.oreillyauto.com/flux-500.html

ROFLMAO......

[Elliot Naess]

To their out-of-this-World credit, O'Reilly Auto Parts keeps this (non-existent) item on their website.

Lasse... some of us are joking with you, because the part you are looking for appears to have no practical use to people who own one former-school-bus for personal travel and camping.

Also, you jumped into this forum and asked for help without even introducing yourself.
This we will happily forgive you, since you have now shown yourself to be a nice fellow after all.

The part you are looking for belongs to a system that was added to the bus after the factory built the bus.
It was probably added to the bus by the school district who used it.

The gadget was also used by other types of vehicle fleets, such as trucking companies and police departments.
In general terms, the system helps the company keep track of such things as how much fuel is filled into each vehicle, and who drives it.

Most of us here on this forum would simply remove and discard such a system.

"Lasse" is a common name in my native Norway. Any connection?

[ewo1]

Originally Posted by Lassehammer

Hi everybody, I'm looking for a spare one of these (see photo)

Can anyone help me to where I can find a new one?

Thank you ��

Here is what I have found...

The RNI 2000 Fuel Management System designed to automatically provide fleet management with important data on fueling and maintenance, and, to prevent unauthorized vehicle refueling.

https://www.publicworks.com/doc/rapa...rnational-0001


Rapac Network International, (RNI) Changes its Name to Orpak USA
February 21, 2006
https://www.automotive-fleet.com/418...e-to-orpak-usa


ORPAK USA, INC.

​100 First Street, Suite 200
​Hackensack, NJ 07601

201-441-9820 (P)
201-441-9830 (F)
info@orpakusa.com

I couldn't get their website to load so I used the Internet wayback machine to look at archived web pages, this is where I got the company info.

don't know if they are still in business but one phone call should help determine that.

good luck..

Oh yeah, I would just cut that silly piece of hardware out.

[Elliot Naess]

If you call a telephone number in a place named Hackensack and somebody answers...
"Mossad headquarters. How may I detonate your call?"
...hang up. Quickly.

[rhbcub]

Originally Posted by Elliot Naess

Most of us here on this forum would simply remove and discard such a system.

Seems like the best answer to me but...maybe this helps?

http://egov.ci.miami.fl.us/Legistarw...ents/70677.pdf

[Elliot Naess]

Originally Posted by ewo1

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Oh yeah, I would just cut that silly piece of hardware out.

Cut the brown wire first. Then the red wire.
Do not under any circumstances cut the yellow wire until last.


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(Yes, I am reading spy novels this month. )

[Lassehammer]

Originally Posted by Crown_Guy

THIS!!!!. Always the goal of ALL safety Crappola. Intrinsically safe. Equals USELESS. That list is LOOOOONG. Think of all the interlocks that keeps the bus from starting and when they go wrong good luck troubleshooting. My fix is to isolate and rip the damn thing out then defeat it's purpose. Simpler, and mechanical if possible, and force the driver to learn his vehicle and stay engaged in it's safe operation.

Just like in the good ole days when we was "Drivers" and not just the nut behind the wheel who couldn't be trusted to do anything right, except haul around 50 screaming little monsters, or paying passengers expecting a professional driver to take care of them. That's not too common today, the drivers I mean, the buses have been automated to the point the Operators have no clue and aren't curious enough to want to find out. But I'm not biased or anything.

Thanks so much for all the help! Really appreciate it

How would I go about doing that? So far I think that the actual module I posted in the original post IS usable, it’s just the 15 pin cable that plugged into it that was corroded and one of the pins broke inside the module (as pictured)

https://ibb.co/3Y4M56T
https://ibb.co/hBNNWgF
https://ibb.co/bjt7HYk

I was thinking of carefully taking the pin out with some tweezers, then w40ing it and trying to connect a new head on this cable that was damaged. I tried to look it up but can’t find it anywhere either - it seems the company maybe be out of business since the don’t answer and their website doesn’t work

Should I just remove the cable end and splice the cables together?

The bus needs to be on the road in a week, this is impeding it from turning on and we’re really scrambling to figured this out, so thank you to everyone for your help - anything you can think of please let me know