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Old 10-24-2013, 02:39 PM   #1
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Would like to hear opinions on the concept of combining two bodies.
Concept is to take rear 3rd of body off of a rear engine bus and place it on a front engine bus.
Thus allowing for huge amounts of outside storage and gaining a side exit.
Is this possible? I am thinking that as long as the buses were from the same manufacturer and year the wall height and ceiling curvature should match.
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Old 10-24-2013, 09:31 PM   #2
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I must not be seeing something. If you want a dog nose with more space then buy a longer dog nose?????
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Old 10-24-2013, 09:47 PM   #3
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I must not be seeing something. If you want a dog nose with more space then buy a longer dog nose?????
I have been trying to see what I am missing here as well.... I don't get either.../shrug
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Old 10-25-2013, 08:08 AM   #4
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The idea is to create some rear storage similar to the old crown mid engines. I am not trying to add length.
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Old 10-25-2013, 08:38 AM   #5
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I am trying to create a storage area similar to the crown midengine body. Really not wanting to extend length.
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Old 10-25-2013, 06:23 PM   #6
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Wouldn't it be a TON easier to just build a box inside and seal the top half of the rear door? You could even lower the floor between the frame rails if you wanted to get crazy. I would think trying to combine 2 buses would be WAY more work and effort and $$.
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Old 10-27-2013, 08:38 AM   #7
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I dont know that it would be any easier. That's part of the overall question. Would be doing a roof raise anyway. Once the grinder and welder are involved I am not a good judge of what is the "easiest way". I like the full width window across the rear bedroom wall. Need a firewall of some sort between a large battery array for the solar and the interior anyway. If the batteries go in a belly box then I have large under bed / bedroom storage for the bikes (4 pedal type + a tandem). Just looking for someone who has chopped a body or reworked the rear end of a body for advice. Don't want to reinvent the wheel. Hoping to cover the bases before choosing a bus. Of course if any one knows a good supply of the Crown's please speak up. Local diesel mecanic shop has acess to crated rebuild that fits well.
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Mixing drugs is a bad thing. Haha, just kidding. Anything is possible with enough time and money.
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Old 10-28-2013, 07:58 AM   #9
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Re: Coach Work combination

bikes take up a lot more room than you would think, the more you take them apart the less you will ride them

with front tires removed and handlebars turned the pedals are the widest part and 2 bikes will need 30 inches x about 60 inches for storage (this is one reason we are looking at different options to get them out of the garage/bedroom

possible be on back porch area with spare tire

4 bikes and a tandem is a lot of space
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Yes the bikes are a lot of space. We usually remove pedals and turn the stem. I don't like removing tires beacuse it means adjust the brakes. Back on topic. Has anyone done major alterations to a body other than a roof raise and door relocation?
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not on a bus...body work is body work (a bus just has a lot more of it)

cut roofs off cars to chop and off trucks to build cages etc

measure cut and reattach lots of big chunks to move around

if bodies are from same manufacture and same year and same factory build outside will be similar

JUST REMEBER THIS:

dog noses will have a body on a frame, take bolts loose and body can come off (you have a 40' frame)

a rear engine normally doesn't have a "frame rail" all the way back like a FE bus

so it will be 100% custom frame setup from wheels back..........the outside body work would be a breeze compared to that headache
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Yup, I have.
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That is a very interesting idea. I like the concept.
Is sectioning a body in your skill set? I think sectioning of same make bodies would easier than building storage, as long as you are comfortable with your skills to do so. Full frame buses make sectioning a body pretty easy work if you know how to do the attaching and final body filler work.

Have you made any further decisions on this?
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If you have money Lots of it by the pound go for it. It would be cheaper to get a 72 passenger bus and swap in a larger engine..
I am also curious why you need 2000lbs. of torque to climb passes?
I used to drive a Freight liner with a big Cat in it and could pull a pass at any speed I wanted; BUT you could and some did burn the tread off of the tires from the torque with a full 80,000lb. load.
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