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Old 11-05-2018, 01:35 PM   #41
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Looks like this when up. My antique frame is narrower than my tire so it fits partially under where a rear deck covers it.
Didn't see this last pic.

I'd want mine under more. Not sure I'd want it behind the bus as it's going to get covered in oil from leaks.

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its a referral.. you find roadside services in your area.. and they arent generally a lot more than getting into a tire shop..
Have you used it? I assume if it was $300 at the shop it would be $600+ roadside. Now if you were JB Hunt and had an account with them...

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.. if its up on the roof how in the heck do you safely get it down.. and get the busted one up there..
That's why I was asking. The gf's Murano is probably 60 or 70 lbs. She can't fit them. I wouldn't want to have to lift that to the roof of the Murano much less to 11+ feet.

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seems the way might be to hoist it up underneath the bus similar to the way a pickup truck does it..
That's what Tango did.

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maybe construct something that allows it to live on the front bumper upright (havent measure to see if its too high and blocks the windshield)..
Good point. No cooling, no engine hatch... doesn't need a swing arm. I'll have to measure that.

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for a roof mount you could probably construct some type of hoisting system.. but will said system function when its been frozen with snow..
A roof mount crane might be nice for other things too But sounds like a lot of work.

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maybe go old school like the model A and have the extra wheel on the side of the bus...
Wouldn't stick out much if any past the mirrors but I'm still seeing a row of mailboxes laying on the ground.
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Old 11-05-2018, 02:57 PM   #42
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The crank raises and lowers the whole thing. I even made special socket for the crank.







And once the fold down deck is on, the tire fits just inside the back rail of it.





It's all completed now just holding off on the final install until other work around it is finished.


PS...here is the deck in the down position.

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Old 11-06-2018, 07:39 AM   #43
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And once the fold down deck is on, the tire fits just inside the back rail of it.
Where are your taillights/brake lights?

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I hate you. A shop big enough for a shop and still have room for a shop???
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It's all completed now just holding off on the final install until other work around it is finished.
So, is that always on or do you stow it somewhere?

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PS...here is the deck in the down position.
Is that 2" or 2 1/2"? Good grief. You could park another bus on the deck.
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Old 11-06-2018, 07:44 AM   #44
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Tango has a freakin awesome shop that i copuld only dream of having!!! ive searched high and low for a space like his in my city to rent and nada!
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Old 11-06-2018, 08:19 AM   #45
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Tango has a freakin awesome shop that i copuld only dream of having!!! ive searched high and low for a space like his in my city to rent and nada!
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It's a rental? Interest waning. Doubt I could rent that for $45 a month. The RV lot at least has power.
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Old 11-06-2018, 08:21 AM   #46
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No I don’t know if tango shop is a rental or not I’m saying I’ve been looking for a rental in my area similar and haven’t found any. And any to buy around here are prohibitive as they are marketed as commercial real estate
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Old 11-06-2018, 08:26 AM   #47
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No I donít know if tango shop is a rental or not Iím saying Iíve been looking for a rental in my area similar and havenít found any. And any to buy around here are prohibitive as they are marketed as commercial real estate
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Gotcha.


U Store It.
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Old 11-06-2018, 09:20 AM   #48
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The rear deck will stay attached once I'm done tweaking the other stuff around it and get some paint on. Only sticks out 24" when in the UP position. The steel is 1x2x14 ga. so it is fairly stout, but really not that heavy. Still needs the deck surface put on.


Ya...the shop has been a life saver. And it is "commercial" but I share it with a buddy/artist that runs the Houston Art Car Museum and we got a pretty good deal on it. Did spend a few bucks fixing it up (added a dividing wall, big shelves and a long work bench) but it was worth it.


Still playing with a couple of options on the tail lights. One fancy...one simple and cheap. Need to move ahead on those pretty soon.








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Old 11-06-2018, 09:53 AM   #49
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My shop is fairly decent but I too am a member of the "tango hate club". lol
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Old 11-06-2018, 10:11 AM   #50
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My shop is fairly decent but I too am a member of the "tango hate club". lol
Anyone with a shop is soooo far back of the line that I can't even see them. It would be nice, shop or no, to have my bus parked at the house. I don't think there's 40 feet between my mailbox and the next driveway much less room in the yard.


Regardless, we should get together and form a support group. Might even need to take up dues so we can send him hate mail from time to time.
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Old 11-06-2018, 10:15 AM   #51
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Iíve been looking for a rental in my area similar and havenít found any.
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P.S. I found someone that might want to sub-lease some space.
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Old 11-06-2018, 11:28 AM   #52
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Nice work Tango, yes I made a spare Stainless tire rack under Elfie also. Under Dory that would not work so it has to go on the roof.


Wow , that is an impressive amount of sudden post activity on an otherwise slow and boring Dory thread .



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Old 11-06-2018, 11:38 AM   #53
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Wow , that is an impressive amount of sudden post activity on an otherwise slow and boring Dory thread .

Later Johan
You can blame me; work is slow and boring.


P.S. You still haven't answered how the hell you get a bus wheel and tire on the roof of a Civic much less 10+ feet on a bus.
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Well , that is why I threw it out there. I was going to build a hoist on top of the roof but I am sure that buses in south America , India , Africa have tires on the roof. Hoping someone had suggestions.


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Well , that is why I threw it out there. I was going to build a hoist on top of the roof
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Oh did I miss that in the grammar? I read it as the tire is already on the roof; not is going on the roof.

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but I am sure that buses in south America , India , Africa have tires on the roof.
They have some skinny dude that weighs less than the tire hustle it up there.

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Hoping someone had suggestions.
So, how about this? The linked one won't do but it was the first hit I got for dumbwaiter.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ALQCILGK&psc=1

I was thinking of something railed. Two of the above in parallel with a platform between them. Then you could have the tire standing up. What's the back of your bus look like? Is there any reason it has to go on the roof? Can you "hang" in on the back somewhere above the engine cover?
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Old 11-06-2018, 01:20 PM   #56
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The other thing I thought of is a kayak roof rack. Motorize it so you aren't doing the lifting.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1


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Thanks BB. I will take a look at it.
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Old 11-10-2018, 04:40 PM   #58
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Dory awning

It is way to cold to enjoy working outside but stuff has to happen.


Got a pretty nice awning a while ago from the scrap yard. Because the arms would be in the natural walking way if I started it behind the front doors.
Also the sun would add heat in our "mudroom"


The problem is that the side mirror sticks out to the front and is mounted on the A frame pillar, ( if a bus has something like that ??). So made an aluminum plate that would relocate the mirror 3 " to the rear. And that would fre eup space for the awning arm mounts.
I wanted to have the arms as flush against the exterior as possible so we modified the mounting pads.






What is nice that the without swinging the mirror around the awning can nor open, an extra security i hope against "awnings going wild"





Will see if it works out. For the rear awning arm I will need to make plates as well to get it properly fastened.
Mounted the original rail on the roof but i still have to add a lot of screws to make it sturdy.


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Dory nailer for planking

Had company and help of our youngest with installing the nailers against the ceiling brackets.







The little space behind the braces is going to be the duct for the Driver AC cooling. I will have to install an separate fan for pushing the hot or cold air thru.Fortunate I have a dedicated heater for defrost and foot heating.
Back on the roof, I need to install the solar racks

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Old 11-11-2018, 07:43 PM   #60
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It was a pretty good weekend, Finally got the reinforcement / solar rails on the bus.
My one big sheet of aluminum roof is glued with double sided tape to frame. Some of the glue let go in an area above the rear wheels because of high bending and twisting stresses and may sun , or just old age,.. 410000 miles .


To redo it with cleaning the old stuff and putting sicaflex back in is a big job. To help the glue I wanted to put a strip on the roof and then screw with many screws or rivets so that this is unlikely to happen again.


That is where my L profile 4'x 2" comes in.





Did not finish it but I am happy that the 20 ft long pieces are out of the yard. A couple of more fasteners and then I can put the next series of 4 panels on.


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