Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 03-29-2015, 07:21 AM   #1
Bus Nut
 
dredman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 594
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Drednought Refit of 2015 - 2003 Bluebird TC2000

A misspelled play on words, I decided to name her something for now, and the old battleship came to mind. Mechanically she seems fine. Only 2 of the tires look less than 70%(more like 10%) I have been bidding on buses for several months now and the ones I wanted always seemed to go a grand beyond what I was willing to pay(the last batch of Alabama buses went for over $7k) So I dropped a bid on this one early, and wound up driving 600 miles to get her.

Here she sits, still on the other side of Columbus, Ohio



For the last 9 months I have been busting my ass, fixing my house to prepare for sale. After the sale, my vision is to semi-retire, sell most of my crap, and travel the US on a "working vacation". With a few requirements, I hope to cram my entire life into this rig. I am a webmaster, so I need to power electronics, and plan to install solar. I also ride motorcycles on and off-road, which is why I was interested in the wheelchair lift.

Gonna be a tight squeeze.



So I got off to a good start yesterday, and removed the seats in less than an hour.





Then, I decided since that was easier than expected, the floor should be just as easy.

Then, I met THIS GUY





The floor appears to be nailed, glued and bolted the metal subfloor, theu the track system. So I guess I am supposed to remove all the track-bolts (100+) from the underside?

If so, I will be purchasing an air-wrench today
dredman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2015, 07:28 AM   #2
Bus Crazy
 
sdwarf36's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Moodus, Ct.
Posts: 1,062
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Champion
Chassis: Ford e-450
Engine: 7.3 Powerstroke
Rated Cap: 14
Welcome! There was someone a while back on here that had a neat idea. He had a small flip down ramp attatched to the handi ramp to extend it enough to get his Ducati in. Looks like you's only need a couple of feet.
__________________
Don't make a fuss-just get on the bus!

my bus build https://www.skoolie.net/gallery/Skoolies/Sped
sdwarf36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2015, 07:35 AM   #3
Bus Nut
 
dredman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 594
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Quote:
Originally Posted by sdwarf36 View Post
Welcome! There was someone a while back on here that had a neat idea. He had a small flip down ramp attatched to the handi ramp to extend it enough to get his Ducati in. Looks like you's only need a couple of feet.
flip-down ramp - yes, that was what I was thinking.
Any idea where this guy posted his mods? pics?
dredman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2015, 08:33 AM   #4
Skoolie
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Iowa
Posts: 120
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Honey Badger RV Co
Chassis: tc2000
Engine: 5.9 cummins
Rated Cap: 74
Nice klr any more pics of it ?
wauto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2015, 09:06 AM   #5
Bus Nut
 
dredman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 594
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Quote:
Originally Posted by wauto View Post
Nice klr
You are mistaken sir - looks can be deceiving


so, I have yet to extract a single bolt(intact) from the track system

I have cut one, and successfully unscrewed another, but the bottom plate/washer will not come off?

my ruff math:

8 tracks X 23 feet X 4 bolts(per foot) = 500-700 bolts (depending on estimate)

Starting to wonder about this project and whether I should keep the floor?

Has anyone ever removed a track floor before?

I searched but could not find anything in HowTo?
dredman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2015, 10:25 AM   #6
Bus Geek
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
I'm at well over 3000 rivets and 400 or so bolts cut on my build.

Just get after it. The bolts won't cut or remove themselves.

This step is a bonding moment between you and your bus. No pain, no gain.

It's like changing your baby's poopy diaper for the first time. lol.

Nat
__________________
"Don't argue with stupid people. They will just drag you down to their level, and beat you up with experience."

Patently waiting for the apocalypses to level the playing field in this physiological game of life commonly known as Civilization
nat_ster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2015, 12:37 PM   #7
Bus Nut
 
dredman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 594
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Quote:
Originally Posted by nat_ster View Post
I'm at well over 3000 rivets and 400 or so bolts cut
Just get after it. The bolts won't cut or remove themselves.
Nat
I guess this is what I was asking - is this something I can avoid, or is there a shortcut, or is it as bleak as it looks?

After $90 worth of tools, I have discover the bolts must be cut, as they WILL NOT be unscrewed (BROKEN hex bit on the first try)

well, let me get started cutting
dredman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2015, 12:43 PM   #8
Bus Geek
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
Sorry, no way around it.

Many of the bolts on mine will not loosen or tighten. The heads just spin because the threads are rusted away.

Cutting is all I can do.

Nat
__________________
"Don't argue with stupid people. They will just drag you down to their level, and beat you up with experience."

Patently waiting for the apocalypses to level the playing field in this physiological game of life commonly known as Civilization
nat_ster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2015, 01:17 PM   #9
Bus Nut
 
dredman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 594
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
so do your bolts look like this?




so in addition to grinding 700 bolts, I am gonna have 700 holes too?
and grinder slices?
no wonder that got rid of this thing
dredman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2015, 01:23 PM   #10
Bus Geek
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
Your using the wrong cutting wheel.

That wheel is for masonry. It has diamond grit glued to it.

A metal cutting wheel is black.

It might be easier to cut the bottoms where ever you can. The nuts will be hanging down. Cutting the flush mount bolts suck because the aluminum is in the way.

Be sure to wear a mask. You don't want to breath aluminum dust.

Nat
__________________
"Don't argue with stupid people. They will just drag you down to their level, and beat you up with experience."

Patently waiting for the apocalypses to level the playing field in this physiological game of life commonly known as Civilization
nat_ster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2015, 07:28 PM   #11
Bus Nut
 
dredman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 594
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
pretty sure I am just going to keep the floors as is for now, give it a good washing and see what happens - they are filthy, but there is no smell.

gonna do some layouts to see how I can make everything fit after I recycle the seats.

Maybe I will work on some video now?
dredman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2015, 08:02 PM   #12
Bus Geek
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
Next time your trying to cut steel with a angle grinder, use the right abrasive wheel. You will find cutting bolts cake walk compared to trying to cut them with that diamond masonry wheel.

I would have had the floor out in a few hours. However I'm quite skilled with my tools, and have a nice selection to choose from. That and I love taking things apart.

Nat
__________________
"Don't argue with stupid people. They will just drag you down to their level, and beat you up with experience."

Patently waiting for the apocalypses to level the playing field in this physiological game of life commonly known as Civilization
nat_ster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2015, 08:07 PM   #13
Bus Nut
 
dredman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 594
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
yep I changed out the wheel after I took the pic, that and there were no more sparks. I thought about cutting from the bottom, but it looked like there many that were inaccessible....... another day maybe - I just hate failure on this level so I gave up
dredman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2015, 10:35 PM   #14
Bus Nut
 
dredman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 594
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
video from this weekend

dredman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2015, 03:10 AM   #15
Skoolie
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 214
Year: 1997
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: Genesis
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 84
The video is private. To show it, set it to unlisted or public.
Timelord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2015, 09:27 AM   #16
Bus Crazy
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
Posts: 1,693
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: B3800 Short bus
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 36
So?? Do I smell a roof raise? Looks like either the bus has a short ceiling, or you are a tall man!
__________________
My build page: Armageddon - The Smell of Airborne Rust
jazty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2015, 09:38 AM   #17
Bus Nut
 
dredman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 594
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Quote:
Originally Posted by jazty View Post
So?? Do I smell a roof raise? Looks like either the bus has a short ceiling, or you are a tall man!
Haha, I was wondering if anyone would notice.
The "short" answer is no.

Limited time, budget, and skills will prevent me making this machine into the luxury coaches that some of you have. My plans are to make this an escape pod, more than a "home". But it will serve as both.

I have a hankering for some adventure, and that is primary above everything else. So I am preparing to be able to load the minimal belongings(moto, clothes, tools, and business accoutrements) and assume the rest will work itself out.

I am really good at winging it
dredman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2015, 01:05 PM   #18
Bus Geek
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
Is the track on the floor good enough to use to tie down your bikes?

Nat
__________________
"Don't argue with stupid people. They will just drag you down to their level, and beat you up with experience."

Patently waiting for the apocalypses to level the playing field in this physiological game of life commonly known as Civilization
nat_ster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2015, 03:32 PM   #19
Bus Nut
 
dredman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 594
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Quote:
Originally Posted by nat_ster View Post
Is the track on the floor good enough to use to tie down your bikes?

Nat
the bad spots are on the center(and the rear that I tore up) and they are just soft. The tracks could support the bus, hanging upside down, with 10 motos inside
dredman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2015, 08:06 AM   #20
Bus Nut
 
dredman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 594
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
#1 challenge appears to be solved, with 2 bolts, 2 nuts, 4 washers, and a $14 c-channel, cut in half and drilled, combined with an aluminum ramp I had already. The only other addition is a kickstand platform, to keep the bike from leaning too far.



http://www.youtube.com/embed/06YCNoQm8jE


And the bike as it sits in the rear of the bus.


dredman is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:59 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
×