'91 Bluebird Disc Brake Caliper

[wheeler]

I'm having trouble identifying a part on my brake system. we're driving this northern arctic hwy and the key retention bolt on the rear left caliper breaks. besides the bolt, i lost the pads (which i have spares of), the lock (got from a jobber store), and what i call a "saddle" (maybe a spring), one on top & bottom, that the caliper sits in. This is the part i can't id. i've had 2 different drawings of the brakes sent to me but can't see this part(s). nothing appears broken on the caliper or casting. the brakes are Bendix disc brakes, the # on the caliper casting is 4150844 (secondary # 7254). i have pics but am new with this.





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[GreyEagle]

Sorry for your troubles, try this link or call them before they close up today


http://www.foundationbrakes.com/media/d ... nguide.pdf

[chev49]

Good link to save... tnx

[wheeler]

i called the guy who sold me the bus and used to own a fleet. he told me that the part i called a "saddle" is called a block. it's a seperate piece(s) that sits between the caliper and the anchor (caliper support). i searched out this block and found a reference to it on a forum at pirate4x4.com and this seems to be it:

"If you have the Bendix style retainer with the h-block and bolt retainer for it, the top of the caliper sildes into the V in the top of the bracket, and the h-block is driven into the opening between the bottom of the caliper and the bottom of the bracket.
If you don't have the bolthole on the bottom and have a V in the bottom of the bracket too, you need to use the goofy Ford retainers with the rubber center in them which drive in top and bottom. The H-block was used until 10/85, the Ford style is later."
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if this above image works, it's from their forum too, and looks like mine.
pretty certain i have the latter Ford style.

the guy who sold me the bus told me that there is an accessory kit that has this hardware and i should get be able to get it at any truck parts. i've already ordered, 3 different kits from napa, but none had these blocks. i've searched some sites with the #'s bluebird in quebec gave me, but they don't have the blocks in the pics i saw. i tried calling bendix directly yesterday & today, but just messages (i'll call them monday along with your connection, grey eagle)
in the meantime i'll continue to search out what # accessory kit goes with my brake system.
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[GreyEagle]

Thanks for the update, sounds like something one might want to carry a spare or two of...... One never knows what, when, or where the sh-t will happen....

Best of luck with the repairs and your trip......

[GreyEagle]

Jimi,
I know it sucks..... been there.
Please send any additional info on the bus.....

Chassis maker ? Bluebird body on a _____________ chassis ?

1991 Bluebird Bus ????

Length ?

Seating cap. ?

Engine ?

Wheel size ?

Air Brakes ?

Vin # ? Vin # would be a big help for some of the shops/ yards etc. I 'm hoping someone knows what it is we're looking for....

If you don't want to post all info here you can email the info to me I'll check around and see what I can find......
Will get back to you....... Nashville is pretty large and has quiet a few truck repair places...... maybe someone will know what it is you need...... all we can do is try...
I'll post whatever I find out on here tomorrow & email you ....... Monday

[keith]

ha greyeagle iam looking at the parts book from blue bird , ineed a picture to match it up too the book picture and than i can give him the parts number..



keith

[wheeler]

as far as i know it's a bluebird by bluebird. 30' flatnose (front engine) - think it seats 60 - cummins 5.9 - 10R22.5 - hydraulic brakes.
i have a few leads to follow on monday to find these blocks (or H-blocks).
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[wheeler]

pics didn't work ...

[keith]

i can't pull them though so pm me with an e-mail address and ill send u the blue bird pictures in my parts book

[wheeler]

i've got the pics but can't see how to insert an image.
email: jswheeler@gmx.com

[keith]

ok iam sending them to uand see if its the same thing there is a part number with them and that right from blue bird parts catalog keith

[wheeler]

don't see the blocks that fit between the caliper & the anchor
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[keith]

Ha greyeagle,,,come to fine out, its not a bird blue,,its a grey goose that what we call the canada b/bs. ...so all his parts will be not be like ours..

keith



That explains a lot...... sorry wheeler, but no gray goose parts down here..... unless we have any Canadians on here.....

might try to google Canadian Bluebird bus.....

[chev49]

If it it actually canadian, some of the parts may well be different. Especially in diesel equipment, etc.
That is why sometimes truck or equipment is sometimes cheaper to buy but when you want parts, its waiting 2 months, and a lot of hassle.

[wheeler]

had to leave where i was broken down in a hurry, so i clamped my rear brake line and tied up my caliper. didn't make it too far when the caliper came loose again but some HALiburton Angels got the wheels off, and the caliper was shot anyway. i did get a new caliper - but the brake line pulled out so i may need a new one of those. However, after bleeding my brakes (1st time), my brakes seem more solid then b4 all this as there was some "pulsing" probably caused by an old worn caliper. oh, i have to wear the dunce cap on that "saddle" - turns out that it's the pads that fit in where i thought another part went. so on we go... thanks for the help

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[GreyEagle]

Thanks for the update,
Good to know at least you're still not sitting somewhere along the side of the road......

as for the brakes, sh-t happens to all of us...... keep rolling......