How to change school bus tire with no air compressor nearby.

[cadillackid]

woah!! this is a tool i need in my box!! the perfect Tool Geek gift to himself!.. will be nice to not have to bounce my whole body weight off my torque wrench (im a little dude) to tighten the wheel nuts!!! or rely on my dewalt impact to get them tight enough

[mmoore6856]

Another google expert i see

[Booyah45828]

Originally Posted by mmoore6856

Another google expert i see

I hope you're not referring to me?

[Tejon7]

I posted a link and mentioned Google, so I suppose I'm the Google expert. I don't claim to know anything about buses, but I suppose I AM pretty good at youGooglizing.

Originally Posted by mmoore6856

I read it on the internet so it must be true is the wrong way to find answers. Ask a person that actually does it

I understand what you're saying, but you must recognize that YOU are writing advice on the internet. My point was the same as yours - don't believe what you read on the world wide web, even on this site full of well-meaning and helpful people.

[cadillackid]

somewhere i thought I read that even in the manufacturers manual it states to use anti-sieze.. im thinking I saw it in my IH service info for one or more of my busses

[Booyah45828]

Originally Posted by cadillackid

somewhere i thought I read that even in the manufacturers manual it states to use anti-sieze.. im thinking I saw it in my IH service info for one or more of my busses

Probably so.

It was/is common practice, especially with budd rims and their inner/outer nut/stud arrangement. All too often would hitting the outer nut with an impact cause the inner nut/stud to spin, making the duals nearly impossibly to get off.

[rossvtaylor]

Who knows what triggers somebody nowadays and leads them to start insulting others from their keyboard... The OP asked a good question and got some good and helpful responses. It's a shame that it devolved into insults and derogatory comments.

OP...hopefully you can take the positive and useful nuggets out of this.

[cadillackid]

Originally Posted by Booyah45828

Probably so.

It was/is common practice, especially with budd rims and their inner/outer nut/stud arrangement. All too often would hitting the outer nut with an impact cause the inner nut/stud to spin, making the duals nearly impossibly to get off.

Had that happen on my superior (it has stud pilot Budds).. was able to impact it enough and I did kroil the outer nut and it came loose next day luckily

[Simplicity]

For the pilots here, you'll know what I'm talking about when I say we do a pre-trip inspection of our bus before each trip to pick up the kiddos.

Part of that inspection is to look at each of the lug nuts to see if they have backed off at all.

While our school buses don't use them, the Metro buses use the loose lug nut indicators https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/TWRW...aAtfnEALw_wcB&.

Yet, despite the best pre-trip inspection, stuff still happens. I was taking kids home and driving on pretty rough roads. The bus was feeling "weird", but I wrote it off to the road conditions. I was heading out of the city streets onto a downhill left sweeping highway entrance where the road was much smoother. That's when I knew something was wrong. I thought I had a flat.

Turns out, I had lost 5 of 8 lug nuts, the other three were loose, on my right rear outside wheel.

Apparently, the mechanic had changed tires and put the new tire on a wheel that was not a match for that setup. It wiggled just enough to allow the nuts to back off.

The mechanics drove the 20 miles to check out the problem, but they didn't have any extra lug nuts in the shop, so they did the old trick of borrowing one from each of the other tires, giving me six of eight, and still driving home on the Interstate with a ill fitting wheel.

[Gorzie]

Originally Posted by roach711

I carry a 3/4" drive breaker bar and a 3' length of square tubing as a low buck "torque multiplier."

LOL I have the same setup except my pipe is 4 foot long

[o1marc]

Originally Posted by rossvtaylor

I wouldn't even consider trying to buy a compressor and impact gun for changing tires on the road. I also don't rely on a socket and breaker bar, even with a long pipe cheater bar. I've had lug nuts which were so tight I couldn't budge them with a 5-foot pipe...but was able to spin them off with one arm, using this:

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I think every bus owner should have one of these, a jack, some blocks, and a short shovel (which works well as a prying tool for lifting the tire off and on the hub).

I have yet to break one loose with that tool. An impact would not budge how tight mine are, my 200psi impact is useless.

[miltruckman]

I use the Milwaukee 2867-22 M18 Fuel 1" High Torque Impact Wrench for the lug nuts on my bus and military trucks. I haven’t found a nut yet that it couldn’t bust loose.

Though sometimes you need the special tool that separates nuts on the rear duals

You have to be careful though, as it will break off studs if you run it in the wrong direction.

Bill

[Rwnielsen]

Originally Posted by Danjo

I thought this thread was going to be about flicking matches at a tire full of starting fluid

That kinda looks cool on YouTube but I'm not sure I'd have the brass to try it on a big tire