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Old 06-06-2021, 04:55 PM   #1
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I need some advice and opinions. 2006 international

I came across this bus. It is a 2006 international. With a 6 cylinder rebuilt Cummins, Alison transmission. Naturally I would walk away but it is 10 minutes from where I live. What are your thoughts? Photos of conversation and bus are attached, sorry if they arenít in order. Thanks for helping me out

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Old 06-06-2021, 06:42 PM   #2
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Hello and welcome.
A big red flag for me would be a seller not answering a question that you asked, something as simple as what engine being answered with its a 6 cylinder says he's not even sure what it is. Just from your pics we can determine that as an 2006 and front engine it would be a 5.9 if it's a Cummins. Saying its an Allison transmission without knowing the model is the same thing, they are all Allison.
Is it really rebuilt? And how well? By who? Prove it with invoices or it didn't happen.
Seems really pushy to make that sale, get a proper mechanical inspection done. If it's a dud $6000 could be the least expensive cost of ownership. Not saying there's a problem, just cover your a*s
Good luck
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Old 06-06-2021, 08:24 PM   #3
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Agree with Oscar, definitely a pushy, desperate vibe.
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Old 06-07-2021, 01:51 AM   #4
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Agreed that the buyer is either not knowledgeable, or doesn't want to tell you what they know. He also sounds desperate. Whenever someone is pushy like this, it sends up red flags and makes me want to dig even deeper.

1) Make sure it's legally his to sell.
2) Determine the engine and tranny. Since it's an 06', it very likely has a Allison 2000. Knowing what you have allows you to do up front research before taking a step to having it checked out.
3) Get all the "proof" of it being rebuilt.
4) Have it thoroughly inspected. If you were looking at paying $8k, and he immediately dropped it to $6k, you A) need to know why B) are saving $2k, so a few hundred for a thorough inspection is cheap insurance.
5) Drive it, city, freeway, up hills, make it shift up and down. If you don't know how to do this, get someone who can and go with them.
6) All the conversion work is also under question. Who knows who did it and how safe and well it was done.

Good luck.
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Old 06-07-2021, 06:07 PM   #5
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Thanks for the feedback!
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Old 06-07-2021, 06:08 PM   #6
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yea im going to pass on this one. thanks!
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