Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 02-21-2020, 02:17 PM   #1
Bus Crazy
 
TheHubbardBus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: SW USA
Posts: 2,064
Year: 2003
Coachwork: IC / Amtran
Chassis: CE300
Engine: International T444e
Rated Cap: 23
Safe to drive 10 miles w/ one flat tire?

Doubt anyone remembers, but a couple months back I broke the bead on one inner rear (dually) tires being stupid. Thought I got it re-seated through herculean efforts but that victory was short-lived. The bead is broken again completely all the way around.

We're ready to buy all new tires, & the shop doing the work is <10 miles distant taking surface streets. The bus is still gutted, so there's no weight in it at all.

So the question is: can I (& should I) drive it like this to the tire shop?

__________________
Go away. 'Baitin.

Our Build: Mr. Beefy
TheHubbardBus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2020, 02:20 PM   #2
Bus Geek
 
EastCoastCB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHubbardBus View Post
Doubt anyone remembers, but a couple months back I broke the bead on one inner rear (dually) tires being stupid. Thought I got it re-seated through herculean efforts but that victory was short-lived. The bead is broken again completely all the way around.

We're ready to buy all new tires, & the shop doing the work is <10 miles distant taking surface streets. The bus is still gutted, so there's no weight in it at all.

So the question is: can I (& should I) drive it like this to the tire shop?
Kubla drove about ten miles with a rear flat. I've done it too.
EastCoastCB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2020, 02:38 PM   #3
Bus Crazy
 
TheHubbardBus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: SW USA
Posts: 2,064
Year: 2003
Coachwork: IC / Amtran
Chassis: CE300
Engine: International T444e
Rated Cap: 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB View Post
Kubla drove about ten miles with a rear flat. I've done it too.

Was it 'seat of the pants' sketchy, or 'no worries, mon'?
__________________
Go away. 'Baitin.

Our Build: Mr. Beefy
TheHubbardBus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2020, 02:54 PM   #4
Bus Geek
 
EastCoastCB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHubbardBus View Post
Was it 'seat of the pants' sketchy, or 'no worries, mon'?
only went up to 40 mph or so. Take it easy and it should be fine. You can feel the difference but its not super scary.
EastCoastCB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2020, 04:10 PM   #5
Bus Crazy
 
TheHubbardBus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: SW USA
Posts: 2,064
Year: 2003
Coachwork: IC / Amtran
Chassis: CE300
Engine: International T444e
Rated Cap: 23
Sweet. Thanks so much, ECCB! I feel much better.


Can't wait to get Mr. Beefy's zapotos nuevos. This is what we're rolling with on the rear:


__________________
Go away. 'Baitin.

Our Build: Mr. Beefy
TheHubbardBus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2020, 04:33 PM   #6
Bus Geek
 
EastCoastCB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHubbardBus View Post
Sweet. Thanks so much, ECCB! I feel much better.


Can't wait to get Mr. Beefy's zapotos nuevos. This is what we're rolling with on the rear:


Those are nice but man they're pricey.
EastCoastCB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2020, 04:49 PM   #7
Bus Crazy
 
TheHubbardBus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: SW USA
Posts: 2,064
Year: 2003
Coachwork: IC / Amtran
Chassis: CE300
Engine: International T444e
Rated Cap: 23
They are, but not even close to what we were looking at w/ a comparable bridgestone. Plus they were on sale, so not as bad as you'd think. Figure the first time I don't get stuck (hopefully!) will make up for it
__________________
Go away. 'Baitin.

Our Build: Mr. Beefy
TheHubbardBus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2020, 05:01 PM   #8
Bus Geek
 
EastCoastCB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHubbardBus View Post
They are, but not even close to what we were looking at w/ a comparable bridgestone. Plus they were on sale, so not as bad as you'd think. Figure the first time I don't get stuck (hopefully!) will make up for it
I've got some very similar goodyear takeoffs from another forum member. They're virtually identical to the Firestones only they have slightly more aggressive tread. They're loud as heck, but dirt road traction is MUCH improved over all positions.
Those Firestones are my FAVORITE drive tires for a skoolie. The goodyears are also amazing but a little louder, imo. Had a set of those Firestones on another bus. They were great. If you got em for less than $400 or so that's pretty good.
EastCoastCB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2020, 05:14 PM   #9
Bus Geek
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,856
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
Yeah those Firestones are very nice tires. The Goodyears are noisy, but if you have a differential hum, the tires are not all that noisy.
Native is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2020, 06:01 PM   #10
Bus Crazy
 
TheHubbardBus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: SW USA
Posts: 2,064
Year: 2003
Coachwork: IC / Amtran
Chassis: CE300
Engine: International T444e
Rated Cap: 23
REALLY glad to hear of such glowing reviews based on real-world experience! Sounds like I lucked out!


I pretty much looked at every comparable tire from every major manufacturer I knew of, & that pattern appeared - from a visual perspective - to be the best compromise I could find to handle dirt well but still provide decent road manners. As far as noise goes, I can handle it. Everything we drive has aggressive tread. We'd probably think something was wrong w/o the hum


We paired them with FS561s in front. Think that's a good combo?
__________________
Go away. 'Baitin.

Our Build: Mr. Beefy
TheHubbardBus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2020, 06:07 PM   #11
Bus Crazy
 
TheHubbardBus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: SW USA
Posts: 2,064
Year: 2003
Coachwork: IC / Amtran
Chassis: CE300
Engine: International T444e
Rated Cap: 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB View Post
If you got em for less than $400 or so that's pretty good.

Simple Tire's running a president's sale right now. These are currently around ~$350 in 10R22.5. But we got them locally for a few bucks less from the place that's installing them.
__________________
Go away. 'Baitin.

Our Build: Mr. Beefy
TheHubbardBus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2020, 06:15 PM   #12
Bus Geek
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,856
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHubbardBus View Post
Simple Tire's running a president's sale right now. These are currently around ~$350 in 10R22.5. But we got them locally for a few bucks less from the place that's installing them.
Compared to the 11R22.5 RoadMaster all-position tires we put on our bus, that is a nice price.
Native is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2020, 06:17 PM   #13
Bus Geek
 
EastCoastCB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHubbardBus View Post
Simple Tire's running a president's sale right now. These are currently around ~$350 in 10R22.5. But we got them locally for a few bucks less from the place that's installing them.
That's a helluva deal.
EastCoastCB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2020, 03:24 PM   #14
Mini-Skoolie
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Eugene, OR
Posts: 42
Year: 2005
Coachwork: Thomas
I got lucky when I bought my bus. The yard had several spare tires salvaged from other buses, and they sold me a front and rear spare for $50 each. I will never see them at that price ever again.
Artor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2020, 03:26 PM   #15
Bus Geek
 
EastCoastCB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Artor View Post
I got lucky when I bought my bus. The yard had several spare tires salvaged from other buses, and they sold me a front and rear spare for $50 each. I will never see them at that price ever again.
I've got some old 10R's with about 1/3 tread left I'd let go for $20 each if anyone in FL wants a spare. Got fronts and rears.
EastCoastCB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2020, 10:18 PM   #16
Bus Nut
 
Rock-N-Ruth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Freedom Field, New Mexico
Posts: 459
Year: 1998
Coachwork: International
Chassis: Amtrans
Engine: 444E
Rated Cap: 84 pas
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHubbardBus View Post
Doubt anyone remembers, but a couple months back I broke the bead on one inner rear (dually) tires being stupid. Thought I got it re-seated through herculean efforts but that victory was short-lived. The bead is broken again completely all the way around.

We're ready to buy all new tires, & the shop doing the work is <10 miles distant taking surface streets. The bus is still gutted, so there's no weight in it at all.

So the question is: can I (& should I) drive it like this to the tire shop?
One of the beauties of duals is that a flat doesn't mean you are stuck. Just keep the speed down with the bead broken on the one tire. You don't want the flat to come apart and damage the other tire.
Rock-N-Ruth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2020, 12:53 AM   #17
Bus Crazy
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Golden Valley AZ
Posts: 1,036
Year: 1993
Chassis: ThomasBuilt 30'
Engine: need someone to tell me
Rated Cap: me + 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHubbardBus View Post
Doubt anyone remembers, but a couple months back I broke the bead on one inner rear (dually) tires being stupid. Thought I got it re-seated through herculean efforts but that victory was short-lived. The bead is broken again completely all the way around.

We're ready to buy all new tires, & the shop doing the work is <10 miles distant taking surface streets. The bus is still gutted, so there's no weight in it at all.

So the question is: can I (& should I) drive it like this to the tire shop?

I bought a cheap "bead blaster" for about $70 online. made airing the tire up while still mounted on the bus a snap, since the other tire kept the weight from deforming the flat tire, otherwise I would have had to remove the wheel.


Looked like this one


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K0L8S3O...osi&th=1&psc=1


The tire truck guys would have laughed at me, but it worked.


Used the cheap Harbor Freight $40 air compressor, filled up the tank as much as the air compressor would do, 100psi, attached air line to the valve core and let it spew into the tire. Used the curved attachment pressed against the rim, braced myself, opened the valve full blast as quickly as I could, and boom, the tire seated. Left the little compressor running forever until the compressor shut off (100psi). Done.


I recommend doing a dry run of holding the tank, bracing yourself, get used to the weight, get the correct angle, and opening the valve. Be prepared for being startled/scared when you dump that tank all at once. Whole lot of noise.


My tire was the outside tire so it was no problem. Inner tire will be different but I think it is doable.


The tank can also be used to air/fix flats alongside the highway on your smaller tires using a short hose.
kidharris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2020, 10:36 AM   #18
Bus Crazy
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Georgia
Posts: 2,264
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: IH
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by kidharris View Post
I bought a cheap "bead blaster" for about $70 online. made airing the tire up while still mounted on the bus a snap, since the other tire kept the weight from deforming the flat tire, otherwise I would have had to remove the wheel.

The tire truck guys would have laughed at me, but it worked.

Why would truck tire guys laugh at you when many (all?) of them use (essentially) the exact same tool for the exact same reason? That's not funny, that's smart.
Brad_SwiftFur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2020, 10:55 AM   #19
Bus Crazy
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Golden Valley AZ
Posts: 1,036
Year: 1993
Chassis: ThomasBuilt 30'
Engine: need someone to tell me
Rated Cap: me + 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad_SwiftFur View Post
Why would truck tire guys laugh at you when many (all?) of them use (essentially) the exact same tool for the exact same reason? That's not funny, that's smart.

Well, they use gas powered high cfm high psi compressors costing thousands of dollars compared to my $40 HF compressor and their bead blasters are lightweight aluminum and cost much more. Like comparing an ant to an elephant.
kidharris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2020, 04:39 PM   #20
Bus Crazy
 
TheHubbardBus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: SW USA
Posts: 2,064
Year: 2003
Coachwork: IC / Amtran
Chassis: CE300
Engine: International T444e
Rated Cap: 23
Gracias to all. Absolutely no problems. Took surface streets the whole way.
Our new tires are sick!
__________________
Go away. 'Baitin.

Our Build: Mr. Beefy
TheHubbardBus is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:16 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.