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09-29-2018, 09:02 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 120
Coachwork: None yet
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Don't have time to respond in depth, but thank you all.
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09-29-2018, 10:50 PM
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#42
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 51
Year: 666
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cycle61
Don't have time to respond in depth, but thank you all.
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Sure thing.... just post if you have questions or need anything. Coaches are a fun adventure and the risk can be managed if you are careful and do your research.
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See "My garage" in profile for past vehicles and pictures.
My bus blog: https://www.autobus.us
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09-30-2018, 09:07 AM
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#43
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 271
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I have two DD Engines- two things - When it starts (it will). Do NOT GOOSE it. Let it idle for a long time. Oil will settle into the blower side of the intake and it will smoke like crazy- let it do its thing. Idle until all oil is forced to all the places it should go.
2 nd thing. Have a means to choke off its air supply should it start running on. Heavy jacket is what I used. These engines are work horses, fresh oil and clean filters!
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10-04-2018, 02:53 AM
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#44
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 60
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Crown
Chassis: Supercoach 40'
Engine: Detroit 6-71T
Rated Cap: A lot
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From my 1988 manual.
Only 40 weight is recommended according to this one.
50 in high temperatures over 100F ambient
15w-40 or 30w only in very cold applications from 0 to -25F and never in marine applications.
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10-04-2018, 06:51 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,325
Year: 1971
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International Loadstar 1700
Engine: 345 international V-8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PB&G
From my 1988 manual.
Only 40 weight is recommended according to this one.
50 in high temperatures over 100F ambient
15w-40 or 30w only in very cold applications from 0 to -25F and never in marine applications.
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Thanks, I like facts from manuals. It is interesting they changed from straight 40 to 15w40(as my manual shows) then back again.
Marine applications usually run the engine near full power for long times, and often do not see cold conditions at least not in the boat, so cold weather flow at start up is not normally a concern.
My application is railroad and mine see a lot of idling time, of course set at high idle. I do also have many differant brands of engines so keeping separate oil for each engine would be a nightmare. Found one of the guys putting journal oil in an engine. Yuck this is straight 20w with a tachiness additive.
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10-04-2018, 07:18 AM
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#46
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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in a bus theres a good chance depending on how its geared that it will be running at close to max RPM for extended periods of time..
one of the things we had to deal with in racing is oil foaming.. some of the newer detergent oils have a tendency to foam when they turn into a fine mist under high load higher RPM conditions.. granted we were spinning engines north of 6000 RPM.. but still the potential exists and is something to think about when looking for oils that are going to run extended periods of time at higher RPM / high load.
-Christopher
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10-13-2019, 10:09 AM
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#47
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Olathe, Kansas
Posts: 220
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Crown
Chassis: Supercoach
Engine: 6-71TA
Rated Cap: 90
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I have not changed the oil on my Crown yet and started looking around for SAE 40 CF-II oil. Tractor Supply has Shell ROTELLA T1 SAE 40 (CF/CF-2) Heavy-Duty Diesel Engine Oil for 14.99 a gallon. Anyone use Rotella for this?
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10-13-2019, 10:21 AM
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#48
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GWRider
I have not changed the oil on my Crown yet and started looking around for SAE 40 CF-II oil. Tractor Supply has Shell ROTELLA T1 SAE 40 (CF/CF-2) Heavy-Duty Diesel Engine Oil for 14.99 a gallon. Anyone use Rotella for this?
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Sadly I don't own a DD two stroke anymore.
These folks are very 2 stroke savvy :
Detroit Diesel 2 Cycle 2 Stroke Engine operating Oil Tips
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10-13-2019, 10:24 AM
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#49
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 1,362
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Crown, integral. (With 2kW of tiltable solar)
Chassis: Crown Supercoach II (rear engine)
Engine: Detroit 6V92TAC, DDEC 2, Jake brake, Allison HT740
Rated Cap: 37,400 lbs GVWR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GWRider
I have not changed the oil on my Crown yet and started looking around for SAE 40 CF-II oil. Tractor Supply has Shell ROTELLA T1 SAE 40 (CF/CF-2) Heavy-Duty Diesel Engine Oil for 14.99 a gallon. Anyone use Rotella for this?
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Rotella T1 is good. I bought nine gallons of it when NAPA had it on sale a few months ago. Delo 100 is favored because it has the lowest sulfated ash content, but any CF-2 oil is OK, especially because we're not driving the high annual mileages that commercial operators rack up.
John
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10-13-2019, 10:29 AM
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#50
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Olathe, Kansas
Posts: 220
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Crown
Chassis: Supercoach
Engine: 6-71TA
Rated Cap: 90
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceni John
Rotella T1 is good. I bought nine gallons of it when NAPA had it on sale a few months ago. Delo 100 is favored because it has the lowest sulfated ash content, but any CF-2 oil is OK, especially because we're not driving the high annual mileages that commercial operators rack up.
John
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Thanks. TS has it on sale and at approx. $3.75 a quart it is hard to pass up.
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10-14-2019, 09:35 AM
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#51
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 271
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Both are quality oils flee from traveler oils. But with the DRIPTRIOT you might consider getting a lot of it. Cheers
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10-14-2019, 09:54 AM
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#52
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GWRider
Thanks. TS has it on sale and at approx. $3.75 a quart it is hard to pass up.
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I must be getting old.... My first thought was "$3.75 - that's outrageous!". I bought Delo 100 for less than $50 a case (6 gallons) all the time for my DD two strokes.
Then it dawned on me that I have not driven one in 18 years and sold my last one 15 years ago.
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10-14-2019, 10:37 AM
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#53
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
I must be getting old.... My first thought was "$3.75 - that's outrageous!". I bought Delo 100 for less than $50 a case (6 gallons) all the time for my DD two strokes.
Then it dawned on me that I have not driven one in 18 years and sold my last one 15 years ago.
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that happens as you get older - what happened 'a couple of months ago' turns out to be a year ago - time flies faster and faster the older you get
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